Male Police can strip search a female.

[ellal]

Who is going to look and see what they have?

A hermaphrodite who is drinking Heineken?

 

[blup]

Fully legal, yes ?

I imagine the argument is that a woman being strip searched by a biological man breaches the right to a private life

 

[blup]

he Uk needs to start coming to terms that the lunatics are attempting to take over the asylum

One flew over the cuckoos nest leaves you wondering who the lunatics ate tbf.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I imagine the argument is that a woman being strip searched by a biological man breaches the right to a private life

Legal or not ?

 

[motorbiking]

If we going this far what about nursing and other medical staff?
Should only male nurses deal with male patients? Should only female nurses deal with female patients? Etc.

I've just spent a month of daily visits to have the 'ray gun' pointed at my nether regions - treated by both male and female nurses - was I worried/excited/embarrassed because my 'family jewels' could (& would) be seen by a nurse of either sex? No. If anything I'd probably more embarrassed/upset by being handled by a male medical person.

AFAICS - the people doing the most protesting are the people most likely to be nar-do-wells or their supporters.

I’m sure you were asked if you were ok about it and I’m sure you were even offered a chaperone.

The difference here is you have no choice, no right to object and can be prosecuted (according to one force at least) if you refuse.

See the difference?

BTW hope the ray gun works.

 

[motorbiking]

Legal or not ?

Do you know what a judicial review is ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Do you know what a judicial review is ?

Is it legal or not ?

 

[motorbiking]

Apparently not then.

When one authority argues in the absence of case law, that the law says X and another says the interpretation is incompatible with another that says Y. The way to see if it’s X or Y that holds, we have a judicial review.

The police force are arguing that their policy is lawful the campaign groups argue it isn’t.

Some lawyers will present their arguments and some judges will decide.

 

[denso13]

Is it legal or not ?

It is being postulated that women with beards will regularly search women without beards, against their will.

It's an argument for arguments sake, nothing more.

 

[motorbiking]

It is being postulated that women with beards will regularly search women without beards, against their will.

It's an argument for arguments sake, nothing more.

Amusing though your understanding is, it’s incorrect as usual

 

[blup]

Legal or not ?

That is the question, but answering it in the affirmative does not address the underlying issue of whether it is morally right. Would you object to marrying a bloke who identified as a woman? In a situation where you were given no choice? Like the issue of assisted dying society has got to address the underlying moral issues before it exports the decision to individuals

 

[denso13]

Would you object to marrying a bloke who identified as a woman? In a situation where you were given no choice?

I know you were being hypothetical but without knowing the numbers involved it is pointless. If the situation above never happens then it isn't an issue in the first place.

There appear to be plenty of safeguards in the BTP's policy. If it really becomes an issue then it can be revisited.

 

[motorbiking]

For example?

 

[blup]

I know you were being hypothetical but without knowing the numbers involved it is pointless. If the situation above never happens then it isn't an issue in the first place.

There appear to be plenty of safeguards in the BTP's policy. If it really becomes an issue then it can be revisited.

I've sped read the btp/npcc policy and the safeguards appear to relate to the detainee only, leaving a brief reference to the dignity of the officer, who is presumably to be treated for all purposes as the gender they identify as, and by extension, are able to carry out searches accordingly. Zero about the rights of a non trans detainee being searched by a trans officer. A woman should be able to object to being stripped searched by a trans woman. It's not rocket science, it just balances the rights of all individuals.

 

[denso13]

A woman should be able to object to being stripped searched by a trans woman.

They are, and another more suitable officer should be found. It could also be deemed that a nurse or other medical professional would be better doing the search.