Male Police can strip search a female.

[noseall]

Full body searches?

How many trans officers?

How many trans searched ?

EIP by a trans officer - ZERO.

Anorak removal - possibly.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

EIP by a trans officer - ZERO.

Anorak removal - possibly.

How often have you ever been stopped and been searched?

is it more common on ordinary citizens going about their daily life than I think ?

 

[noseall]

How often have you ever been stopped and been searched?

A number of times at the airport. No big deal. Can't say I've ever taken any notice of the officer giving me a pat down.

 

[fillyboy]

A number of times at the airport. No big deal. Can't say I've ever taken any notice of the officer giving me a pat down.

You'd take notice if you were naked and they had their finger up yer arris.

 

[denso13]

You'd take notice if you were naked and they had their finger up yer arris.

Fillyfacts™

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You'd take notice if you were naked and they had their finger up yer arris.

is that what you think any police officer (of any sex or definition) is after? the chance to do that, with witnesses in the room, taking into account the suspect may request another officer to search ?

I wonder how many join the BTP thinking they can achieve that?

 

[denso13]

It's why George(ina) joined up in the first place. He/she goes to all the trouble of obtaining a GRC so he/she might get a suspect/senior officers to agree to him/her searching said suspect. No touching mind, just a quick look...

 

[blup]

Which it covers in the policy. It doesn't mention a man searching a woman, or vice versa, anywhere, that is just headline making.

The person being searched should be treated as per their birth certificate (or GRC only as necessary), man searches a man, or woman searches a woman. In the absence of any further information they will be searched by what appears to be their gender until proven differently.

You don't like that?

Thats the point, the policy is about trans detainees and assumes birth or chosen gender is a given. The penny hasn't dropped with the numpties at BTP whereas the Met - through experience of being in the spotlight - have realised there is an issue

 

[denso13]

Thats the point, the policy is about trans detainees and assumes birth or chosen gender is a given

Of course it isn't a given, the policy says something different. Without further information a suspect will be treated as their apparent gender, until proved otherwise. It absolutely isn't a case of a suspect choosing which gender they are.

chosen gender

"Chosen gender" doesn't appear anywhere in the policy.

 

[motorbiking]

Do you know whar JOG stands for, lol...
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Removal of anorak - allowed.

EIP - not a prayer.

Literally ignoring the words written.

 

[motorbiking]

Of course it isn't a given, the policy says something different. Without further information a suspect will be treated as their apparent gender, until proved otherwise. It absolutely isn't a case of a suspect choosing which gender they are.

"Chosen gender" doesn't appear anywhere in the policy.

Clueless. The policy applies the gender recognition act to The police and criminal evidence act.

Sex = acquired sex.

 

[motorbiking]

Thats the point, the policy is about trans detainees and assumes birth or chosen gender is a given. The penny hasn't dropped with the numpties at BTP whereas the Met - through experience of being in the spotlight - have realised there is an issue

It’s not just BTP there seem to be 3 idiots on here who don’t get it. Not that a plumber, builder and car mechanic could be expected to.

 

[denso13]

Thats the point, the policy is about trans detainees and assumes birth or chosen gender is a given.

Do you want them searched as per the gender on their birth certificate, or not?

 

[motorbiking]

Do you understand the difference between sex at birth and acquired sex?

1. Identified and assigned by existence of genitalia
2. An application form.

 

[motorbiking]

EIP by a trans officer - ZERO.

Anorak removal - possibly.

You can’t be this stupid. You understand that when it says “same sex” it includes “acquired sex”.