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Putin is likely to announce that the
Special military operation in Ukraine is at an end on the 9th May

and he will announce that it is now a war and Russia will mobilise for war ????? :idea::idea:

Moldova
 
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Putin is likely to announce that the
Special military operation in Ukraine is at an end on the 9th May

and he will announce that it is now a war and Russia will mobilise for war ????? :idea::idea:

Moldova

I expect he'll push at the easier targets - like Transnistria, but find most Uke cities too difficult. They're well dug in and take massive effort to break. Kramatorsk and one or two thers he'd clearly like. The Dnipro looks like a boundary but he'd surely like Odessa, to cut Ukraine off from the Black sea.
It may depend how well he can destroy western arms supplies. If I were him I'd have a Czar for that.
 
I still don't think is possible to guess what will happen next even in respect to 9th May. How big is their army and how much kit do they have? I doubt if they have ever displayed the lot on the 9th. They might use it for something else. From various noises as far as the battle is concerned - not much will happen for a while.

Lots of cruise missile strikes and we have no clear idea what they hit. Some more since, same again. AlJ still have a reporter nearer some of the action. He's moved more than once. He can tell the difference between mortars and artillery. Mortars mean closer fighting. Nothing much has happened out of Donetsk, the earlier Donbas battle line. It is now. Then comes Zaporizhia being approached from the south. There is a water way more or less cutting all of the way across the country. Did Kyiv take out the bridges at their end?

What Russia appears to be doing is trying to cut off supply lines from west to east. It could be that how that goes influences a number of aspects. Even subsequent actions - both sides.
 
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Ru is edging forwards. Even if all the announced howitzers etc arrive at the fronts, they'll be 100's against Putin's 1000... Ru can blow the bridges to stop reinforcements from the west. Then use a big bang against the "legitimate targets" to the west of the river.
If the west gets more involved, then China may support Ru.

I agree somehow about the Howitzers in fact alot of the defence experts have said this fight along the eastern line is all about now not what can be supplied in weeks to come.

I would also hazard a guess the Western think-tanks with the massive Satellite coverage and recon would have already predicted and strategised in preparation for this 2nd phase/ Plan B! Which was most probably a rehash from the Generals not yet shot and Putin himself. That in itself id say still leaves the Russians reliant on heavy artillery formation and as sitting ducks to the more advance precision weapons homing in on them.
Weve also seen Ukraine 'special operations' going on behind Russian lines now, these have been targetting the Iksander and other heavier munitions which hopefully will impact those bastards enough to stop them carpet bombing buildings with bunker busting munitions.

The only advantage i see here is Putin relying on pure numbers, these poor Russian men will once again be thrown under buses and proclaimed heros to their weeping families being rewarded with a puny few months worth of worthles Roubles.


No i dont see this ever being a China war too. I think China are happy to sit back and watch both sides chuck money into a bottomless pit and weaken their economies. If i was Putin i would be a fool to trust China any more than the US of A.
 
Russian soldiers giving a press conference about their experiences in the Ukraine after surrendering to Ukrainian authorities. civilians/

 
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10th of May.
;) That sounds fairly certain.

UK intelligence reports Russians regrouping in the N East - came across as needing to. Probably Kahkiv. Not that much news from their recently.

Donetsk. Ukraine troops moved out of some smaller places to a larger one and evacuating people. I can't remember the name
 
As great as I think our intelligence bods are, nobody has a clue what's going on in this nutter's head. I thought the chances of escalation were slim now I'm not so sure.
 
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Russian state TV has brazenly simulated how Vladimir Putin would launch a nuclear strike on three capital cities in Europe, declaring there would be 'no survivors', in response to comments made by the UK's Armed Forces Minister supporting Ukrainian strikes on Russian infrastructure.

Hosts on Channel One's 60 Minutes programme announced the cities of London, Paris and Berlin could be hit within 200 seconds of nuclear missiles being launched, as tensions ramp up amid the ongoing war in Ukraine.

It comes as ex-Nato chief Richard Sherriff warned the West must 'gear itself up' for a 'worst case scenario' war with Russia in Ukraine, amid reports the Russian president could use the country's victory day parade on May 9 to declare 'all-out war' on its neighbour.

On Thursday's show the chairman of the nationalist Rodina party, Aleksey Zhuravlyov, pondered what would happen if Russia launched nuclear weapons against the UK, saying: 'one Sarmat missile and the British Isles will be no more.'

When pulled up on the comment by one of the hosts, he insisted he was 'saying this seriously', while another host added that the UK has nuclear weapons too and that 'no one will survive in this war'.

Producers on the show then showed viewers a map seeming to suggest missiles could be launched from Kaliningrad, the Russian enclave between Poland, Lithuania and the Baltic Sea.

It suggested these could reach Berlin in 106 seconds, Paris in 200 seconds and London in 202 seconds.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...clear-missile-strike-London-no-survivors.html
 
Russian soldiers giving a press conference about their experiences in the Ukraine after surrendering to Ukrainian authorities. civilians/

Wasn't the UK defence secretary claiming that Russian government was in contravention of the Geneva convention when they put captured Ukranian militants on show.
Why the double standards.
 
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Russian state TV has brazenly simulated how Vladimir Putin would launch a nuclear strike on three capital cities in Europe, declaring there would be 'no survivors', in response to comments made by the UK's Armed Forces Minister supporting Ukrainian strikes on Russian infrastructure.

Hosts on Channel One's 60 Minutes programme announced the cities of London, Paris and Berlin could be hit within 200 seconds of nuclear missiles being launched, as tensions ramp up amid the ongoing war in Ukraine.

It comes as ex-Nato chief Richard Sherriff warned the West must 'gear itself up' for a 'worst case scenario' war with Russia in Ukraine, amid reports the Russian president could use the country's victory day parade on May 9 to declare 'all-out war' on its neighbour.

On Thursday's show the chairman of the nationalist Rodina party, Aleksey Zhuravlyov, pondered what would happen if Russia launched nuclear weapons against the UK, saying: 'one Sarmat missile and the British Isles will be no more.'

When pulled up on the comment by one of the hosts, he insisted he was 'saying this seriously', while another host added that the UK has nuclear weapons too and that 'no one will survive in this war'.

Producers on the show then showed viewers a map seeming to suggest missiles could be launched from Kaliningrad, the Russian enclave between Poland, Lithuania and the Baltic Sea.

It suggested these could reach Berlin in 106 seconds, Paris in 200 seconds and London in 202 seconds.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...clear-missile-strike-London-no-survivors.html

I hope that does go out on state TV. It should focus a few minds on the fact that this isn't a special small operation that their army is dealing with, and it might lead to 64 Hiroshimas arriving from the UK and a bigger load from France.

Back in Ukraine, the Russians seem to be doing what was expected - hitting access from the west and concentrating on what they really want. I wouldn't be surprised if almost none of the supposed US and other arms ever get to where they can do some good. Too many long roads and bridges in the way.

Russia doesn't seem to be running out of missiles. I can only so far find propaganda sites on both sides. Lots of crap, basically.
Russia seems to be holding the cards, though they're having to shuffle them.
 
As great as I think our intelligence bods are, nobody has a clue what's going on in this nutter's head. I thought the chances of escalation were slim now I'm not so sure.

The announcement coincided with some Ukraine success in the NE. To my mind that makes it a little questionable.

Intelligence also said that Russia will use chemicals. Somehow I feel that was how Russia could have had a more successful attack on Kyiv - in their view so expected it.

War of words and all are at it. I do wonder about your earlier comment - part of a bigger plot. I still feel that is the end of Russia as a power.
 
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