Putin, arse, elbow

:mrgreen:I don't know what you take but it must be rather mind bending if you think all is as simple as that.
He's still not got over the war, bless him. Still angry at the Gerries for ridding us of the terraced slum shoitholes darn the East End.
 
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:mrgreen:I don't know what you take but it must be rather mind bending if you think all is as simple as that.

I don't think it's as simple as that nor do I consider UK a global superpower although in certain respects we're up there with the best of them.
But the EU a global superpower? really?, it's 27 countries bound by a common set of rules half of whom are controlled by Russia.
 
Max I heard is 3 buses, out of 1000 civvies down there?
Sideshow.

Far more buses and negotiations mentioned. No one totally sure about numbers as no party will currently discuss it - even the UN it seems. The UN vehicles are there. Actually a number went in when their main man visited.

UNICEF in the west. There are also hospital problems due to doctors evacuating.

So it looks like some have left the steel works and no one as yet is totally sure how many. All civilians will be checked over by both sides - that wont be quick.
 
But the EU a global superpower?

Economically it is. Big bang wise similar to us in many ways but more countries. Nukes an exception other than France which in the past has had more than us. Always their own unlike us as well.
 
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Economically it is. Big bang wise similar to us in many ways but more countries. Nukes an exception other than France which in the past has had more than us. Always their own unlike us as well.

Maybe we should leave them to sort Russia out then.
 
Maybe we should leave them to sort Russia out then.
All are helping but I do have some question marks about Eastern Europe. Germany had a policy of not getting involved. ;) The USA seem to have whoopee aspect to that and not a terribly successful history in this area. French military may have been more active in other areas than some but we don't hear about so called secret wars.

France and Germany baby sat Zelensky Putin talks at the same table but they didn't get anywhere. The UN's haven't either. A European group did manage to broker the Minsk deal which did reduce fighting. Ukraine's recent comments on that is no choice as we had a gun to our heads.

You might say that the whole current situation has just been waiting to happen. You might infer that western intelligence said Putin will invade due to previous talks where he said he would if something wasn't sorted out and I don't mean talks with Ukraine. All things are possible not just things from Putin's perspective. The USA have a clearly declared aim now. A weakened Russia that can't rise out of the ashes again - might change if Putin wasn't there but what would a replacement get up to. If Russia sorted out joined the EU that really would be something. However sorting ex soviet states out does have it's problems according to some.

The other problem is that Russia hasn't lost yet.
 
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The UK can be relied upon to stay the course over this Ukrainian caper

French are the loose cannons in nato no surprise there tbh ( scoundrels)

the Germans hmmm 16 years of Merkel have left them in a bit of a pickle :)

Hungarians well yes exactly

but than again who cares about them any way

the place is run by a fruit cake and Putin brown noser

Italians ???? Flakey ?

Dutch ??? Poor record plus they are probably bombed out there eads on spliff

Belgys insignificant country
Most famous belgy is a fictious character invented by a British author

Luxembourg ??? Who :ROFLMAO:
 
Romanians ??? They will probably take the oppurtunity that this may throw up to refurbish there houses

kitchen units
Carpets
Appliances

ect :idea::)
 
French are the loose cannons in nato no surprise there tbh ( scoundrels)

Wrong. I wish you could get over Macron's hair do. Maybe you should wear wig or change tailor if it's his suite. Or maybe you need to loose weight. Hard to tell. Obviously a physical thing. THe rest you spout is garbage. Who's building us a nuke station? The Japanese dropped out.

QUOTE="transam, post: 5219755, member: 131022"]he Germans hmmm 16 years of Merkel have left them in a bit of a pickle[/QUOTE]
Really wrong there. The greens probably explain their problems.

Hungarians well yes exactly
What about the rest of them. What are they doing?
 
French are always loose cannons
And cannot be trusted ( scoundrels)

the only country’s that can be relied on is the

US
Uk
Poland
Baltic states
Norway
Finland & Sweden granted not in nato

Turkey hmmmm although they are one of the few country’s to have stood up to the Russians militarily

Germans dunno ?
Portugal possibly

all the rest are dead beats and no hopers and brown nosers
 
Norway
Finland & Sweden granted not in nato

Actually I believe these did have the same attitude about getting involved as Germany did in similar areas.

UK's problem with France was De Gaulle. No way into an embryonic EU while he was around.
 
Far more buses and negotiations mentioned.

Where?

Earlier it was 3 buses, two of which ad been stopped.

Latest reports I see now are "About 100". Still only about 3 buses, then.
They're still saying that's out of 1000.
 
Actually I believe these did have the same attitude about getting involved as Germany did in similar areas.

UK's problem with France was De Gaulle. No way into an embryonic EU while he was around.


De Gaulle that jumped up insignicant lanky streak of ***s

who spent the war in the UK boozing champagne and stuffing his self with quails eggs and caviar

whilst thousands of his country men were executed

De Gaulle :ROFLMAO: who than strutted through Paris after the Germans left like some liberator

whilst over seeing the execution of
His own country men and woman
 
French are always loose cannons
And cannot be trusted ( scoundrels)

the only country’s that can be relied on is the

US
Uk
Poland
Baltic states
Norway
Finland & Sweden granted not in nato

Turkey hmmmm although they are one of the few country’s to have stood up to the Russians militarily

Germans dunno ?
Portugal possibly

all the rest are dead beats and no hopers and brown nosers

Yeh.
You'd think the mid euro countries like Slovakia have reason to be resolute. Pity about Orban in Hungary, they must have short memories. West is bloody lucky with Turkey's stance so far, they control access to the Black Sea.

Still waiting here of news of any arms from the west..
 
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