Give that the Russian military are attacking civilian areas with no respect for human life it is obvious that human shields would not prevent the Russian military from blasting through the shield
Putin, arse, elbow
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Give that the Russian military are attacking civilian areas with no respect for human life it is obvious that human shields would not prevent the Russian military from blasting through the shield
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He's talking out of his Arse. Russia was massing forces since October 2021. Ukraine never had the forces to take back the Donbas from the Russian army. While you might be in denial Ukraine knew what it was facing.
This is why you get pulled up. You keep repeating easily debunked rubbish from Putin.
So if I mention what Putin said I am in denial. Instead of a pretend they are not involved this time as they have in the past other than supplying arms they jumped in.
Daftest comment from you so far. Why do you think the Russian are having problems now? Hasn't it struck you that the way they have gone about it may relate to that aspect. Did you bother looking at Ukraine's equipment list?
What are you trying to say? Because that's just jibberish. But to make you aware the Crimea was seized by Russian special forces who also invaded the Donbas region until Russia could establish a local militia. Russian soldiers were also engaged in the Ronbas region in 2014 , Russia stopped pretending otherwise when they started having to exchange entire units that were captured.
They're having trouble because they grossly underestimated Ukrainian will to fight and overreached as a result. They've now relocated and are proceeding more slowly with their traditional massed firepower. They've also brought in Syrian mercenaries, Chechen troops and look to be bringing in Belarusian troops too.
But you think that the latest justification from Putin, nearly three months after saying he wanted to destroy Ukraine is probably true. Twit.
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exactly
I was sort of surprised that Putin
Did not call for mobilisation ?
seems odd that the likes of Russia
always parade there military hard ware
sort of show off to the world there weapons of mass destruction
Don’t think the yanks parade there
Nuclear missiles through Washington
Did not call for mobilisation ?
seems odd that the likes of Russia
always parade there military hard ware
sort of show off to the world there weapons of mass destruction
Don’t think the yanks parade there
Nuclear missiles through Washington
Did you notice the lack of aircraft at the parade ie no flyovers, seems like they didn't want the embarrasment of a shootdown, i also saw a photo of russian war veterans on the stage background, that believe it or not was actually Bonnie and ClydeI was sort of surprised that Putin
Did not call for mobilisation ?
seems odd that the likes of Russia
always parade there military hard ware
sort of show off to the world there weapons of mass destruction
Don’t think the yanks parade there
Nuclear missiles through Washington
He didn't say that. This is your problem really.
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Have the Syrians turned up? The Chechens seem mostly to turn up near the front, get photographed and then **** off - other than standing behind Russian front line units threatening to shoot shirkers they seem to have done precious little fighting (at least according comments from the Russian side).
And then there are the Belarussians who have an on-off will they, won't they approach to joining in. This is possibly because Lukashenko is frightened that he'll have civil unrest in his country yet again, but that this time maybe his mate Putin will have his hands so full with Ukraine that he won't be able to send Russian forces in to quell unrest in Belarus. Remember, Belarus has ongoing internal partisan activity with railway bridges having been destroyed and trains disrupted, not to mention over 100,000 NATO troops on its' borders (against 62,000 total army with a lower level of equipment and training than anyone in the West). And all Lukashenko wants is to stay in power - getting embroiled in a war which is very unpopular in Belarus isn't necessarily a good move for him
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Sounds about right. Somehow I didn't think there were many Syrians there - if there were the Orcs would have been making a lot more out of their presenceChechens turn out if there is some thing worth looting
The Chechens are fighting on both sides and always have been. As far as I know the Russian ones are just part of their army, One Chechen faction hates the Russians. Likely to have been displaced long ago. The type that held a load of people as hostages in Moscow rather a long time ago now.
Belarus has been engaged but not mentioned of late. Their mobile stuff shows a V rather than a Z. The V's have cropped up in footage at times but I haven't seen any lately.
Syrians - pass. I just took that as Putin saying me too when people from various counties were arriving in Ukraine to fight for them. Maybe he has some maybe he doesn't.
Declaring war etc on the 9th - and idea of what he might do. He might who knows or when. He might put more troops in. He might not be able to.
We are being spoon fed propaganda from all sides including the west. We don't know what the true losses are on either side. We don't know how it will eventually all turn out. We do know that the west supplied gear that makes use of helicopters and tanks as they might be used rather difficult. So a lot of shelling is going on from both sides. The video link justin posted now shows the Russians have trenched some places giving the Ukrainians the same problems Russia has if they attack. They also have the same problem if Russia happens to take over a built up area. Usually rather small places now in the east. In some cases both sides will be damaging them. The same videos now mention that the Azov from Kyiv are now active in the east.
Russia now wants no western weapons to get where they are needed and are reacting accordingly mostly with missiles. The same videos suggest the railway system is dysfunctional. All we know is some have been hit. Not how many or where. They will also hit anywhere stuff is stored, It's war.
Biden reckons he has requested enough money to keep the Ukraine side going until September.
I'd suspect that as with any war both sides need to keep supplies going. If they don't they have lost but if it just cones down to troops with plenty of bullets if any side attacks through open ground they will loose troops - probably rather a lot. Machine guns figure too. Both sides have them - or so it seems. This isn't 5,000,00 soldiers a side WWI and II style. It's different.
Belarus has been engaged but not mentioned of late. Their mobile stuff shows a V rather than a Z. The V's have cropped up in footage at times but I haven't seen any lately.
Syrians - pass. I just took that as Putin saying me too when people from various counties were arriving in Ukraine to fight for them. Maybe he has some maybe he doesn't.
Declaring war etc on the 9th - and idea of what he might do. He might who knows or when. He might put more troops in. He might not be able to.
We are being spoon fed propaganda from all sides including the west. We don't know what the true losses are on either side. We don't know how it will eventually all turn out. We do know that the west supplied gear that makes use of helicopters and tanks as they might be used rather difficult. So a lot of shelling is going on from both sides. The video link justin posted now shows the Russians have trenched some places giving the Ukrainians the same problems Russia has if they attack. They also have the same problem if Russia happens to take over a built up area. Usually rather small places now in the east. In some cases both sides will be damaging them. The same videos now mention that the Azov from Kyiv are now active in the east.
Russia now wants no western weapons to get where they are needed and are reacting accordingly mostly with missiles. The same videos suggest the railway system is dysfunctional. All we know is some have been hit. Not how many or where. They will also hit anywhere stuff is stored, It's war.
Biden reckons he has requested enough money to keep the Ukraine side going until September.
I'd suspect that as with any war both sides need to keep supplies going. If they don't they have lost but if it just cones down to troops with plenty of bullets if any side attacks through open ground they will loose troops - probably rather a lot. Machine guns figure too. Both sides have them - or so it seems. This isn't 5,000,00 soldiers a side WWI and II style. It's different.
Nice work, of course there's supposed to be 12,000 Kadyrovite troops and 500 Anti Russians but by claiming both sides you make it seem equal. Associating them with Terrorism without evidence is a nice touch.
Did you really, surprising since Putin said he wanted to recruit 16,000.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/1/in-syria-moscow-leads-effort-to-recruit-fighters-for-ukraine
Donald, is that you?
Yes thanks for that. Oh, you weren't finished...
Indeed.
Yes, tanks are harder to drive whilst on fire.
That's not quite accurate, but that's another response.
Sadly Russia has a limited supply of precision weapons so use a lot of 'dumb' missiles and bombs. Which is why they are doing so well at hitting blocks of flats. In reality the missile strikes are just morale effects to try and wear down civilian morale. They aren't using them in numbers or on regular enough targets to make any difference to armament supplies.
I haven't seen anything to imply the Russians have made any real difference to military rail transport.
Yes, both sides have Machine guns.
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