The death penalty.

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Norcon, Why don't you go and look up the word racist? Then stop talking twoddle.
 
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Norcon, Why don't you go and look up the word racist? Then stop talking twoddle.

I looked up Hate Speech instead.

Hate speech is a term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color), mental capacity and any other distinction-liability. The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.

In my mind bas is a racist. He will find that offensive but hey thats cricket. If I knew who he was and saw him walking up the street in my direction I would cross over to the other side to avoid him.
 
Very few contributors seem to be making any attempt to see the opposing point of view, so the debate never moves on.

To anyone who opposes the death penalty:

Can you not see the point of view of people who want it? It's possible, nay healthy, to express anger at truly murderous and perverted acts, but expression of the desire doesn't make such a person a killer any more than your desire to imprison people makes you a jailer.

To anyone who supports the death penalty:

Can you not put aside your emotions for one moment, and consider why some people don't want it? Many of you argue the need for capital punishment on the grounds that there's no other acceptable way of dealing with the worst cases, but where's the balance? There's a broad spectrum of crimes and culpability, and no forthcoming definition of where to draw the line.

One thing I've not yet seen explained anywhere is why an innocent life is worth so much less than a guilty death.
 
If the pro-death lobby could come up with irrefutable evidence that the death penalty reduced the incidence of murder in the states where the death penalty is carried out they would be jumping up and down shouting,

"Here's the proof. You can't argue against the truth. In states where the death penalty is administered the murder rate has fallen dramatically"

However, (and sadly for them), the evidence is completely the other way around. Come on guys - at least be honest and admit it. If there were irrefutable proof - would you tell us all about it and how me must believe it? (they would).

Here it is guys.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=12&did=168#stateswithvwithout
 
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Repetition of the we're right / they're wrong mantra is hardly the kind of balance I had in mind. :rolleyes:
 
Aha, Norcon,
do I detect a brother struggling towards the enlightenment of the wall?
I think I do.









The Wall is all encompassing, to believe is a natural thing.
the Enlightened one.
 
Aha, Mantra,
another potential seeker of truth.










sometimes we stumble across the wall of truth,
sometimes we just believe.
the Enlightened one.
 
Aha, Norcon,
do I detect a brother struggling towards the enlightenment of the wall?
I think I do.









The Wall is all encompassing, to believe is a natural thing.
the Enlightened one.

Are you a brickie looking for a start or something?
 
Ah, sooey,
some are called, some are dragged kicking and screaming to enlightenment,
Are you one of the latter?








The Wall is all encompassing
We all seek enlightenment there eventually
The returned one.
 
Ah, sooey,
some are called, some are dragged kicking and screaming to enlightenment,
Are you one of the latter?

Nah, I'm just after someone to do me extension.
 
Chess, did you avail yourself of some strange aromatic substances whilst at the Portobello Market ;) ?
 
Aha, Shyt-awks,
your humour is as a refreshing breeze across the wall of truth.
I know you are reaching for the enlightenment of truth.








When the returned one comes back from the wall we will all realise the futility of our lives.
 
Aha, sooey,
an extension of your enlightenment is what you really seek.
 
Repetition of the we're right / they're wrong mantra is hardly the kind of balance I had in mind. :rolleyes:

You can't argue against fact. Imprisonment is a better deterrent - that's all there is to it. I'm waiting for the pro-death sentence lobby to prove me wrong.






(they won't)
 
Ah, joe 90.
I think your brain needs reprogramming with the enlightenment of the brethren of the wall.
after all your name implies that you can learn new things by being reprogrammed, ( or perhaps I'm getting my 1970s cartoon characters mixed up?) The knowlege of the wall can help you to be healed.





only the damaged ones need come to me sayeth the Enlightened one.
those who are perfect can take their chances,
 
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