Trump Re Ukraine

[Notch7]

No, he's as pure as the driven snow and gives all of his salary to charity.

How would you know?

Trump is massively corrupt and you think he is the messiah

 

[blup]

5 . Many people in Ukraine are pro Russia and want to be back in their fold. There has been fighting going on for over a decade in the Donbas region, Ukrainians v Ukrainians.

The problem is they don't acknowledge the existence of the whole country, not just the donbas region

 

[Notch7]

I believe it's been covered by the BBC as well if you care to look.

there were some peace talks that Turkey set up and were reported on - that part at least is true

The bit that’s rancid BS is the claim there were substantive talks that Johnson stopped

You are a MAGA cultist that can’t think for yourself

 

[denso13]

The Kyiv Independent reported the poll results last month - hardly surprising during another long winter of war. They'll keep fighting as long as America supports their war effort. Zelensky is right to avoid an election while Russia maintains their assault on their country.

But Trump says he only has 4% support? He's not lying through his teeth again is he?

 

[blup]

I think Zelensky is a con man and a crook, probably filling his bank account at our expense, no way should we be funding Ukraine let alone putting our service men/women in danger over there, if the west had not got involved the small tiff with Russia would have all been done and dusted in 3 months.

That's what they thought in 1939. Out of sight out of mind.

 

[Odds]

But Trump said he only has 4% support? He's not lying through his teeth again is he?

When he isn't lying through his teeth, he's talking out his arsenal.

 

[fillyboy]

But Trump says he only has 4% support? He's not lying through his teeth again is he?

4% approval rating, also reported elsewhere. Nothing to do with that poll.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I think Zelensky is a con man and a crook, probably filling his bank account at our expense, no way should we be funding Ukraine let alone putting our service men/women in danger over there, if the west had not got involved the small tiff with Russia would have all been done and dusted in 3 months.

Chamberlain

 

[denso13]

4% approval rating, also reported elsewhere.

Where?

 

[JohnD]

It started 1.

Because Putin wants to recreate the Russian Empire, and he considers that neighbouring countries should not be independent sovereign nations, but should be colonies owned and ruled by Russia.

And because he incorrectly believed that like the Czechoslovskia and Hungary of his youth, and the Poland and Lithuania of his father's day, the invaded countries would collapse as his mighty army rolled over them.

 

[Notch7]

5 . Many people in Ukraine are pro Russia and want to be back in their fold. There has been fighting going on for over a decade in the Donbas region, Ukrainians v Ukrainians.

Not true

1) people in Donbas do not want to be part of Russia, they just want to have a better life

2) there hasn’t been Ukraines fighting Ukrainians in Donbas, there has been Ukrainians fighting Wagner group and Russian backed separatists who have largely come from Russia

 

[Notch7]

Where?

Fox News

Here’s the truth: A telephone poll of 1,000 people by the respected Kyiv International Institute of Sociology found that 57 percent of respondents trusted Zelensky, while 37 percent said they did not and the rest were undecided.

 

[Notch7]

4% approval rating, also reported elsewhere. Nothing to do with that poll.

That’s bolox

Zelensky has a higher poll rating than Trump

A telephone poll of 1,000 people by the respected Kyiv International Institute of Sociology found that 57 percent of respondents trusted Zelensky, while 37 percent said they did not and the rest were undecided.

Poll gives Zelensky 57% approval rating despite Trump claims

Ukraine's President Volodymr Zelensky has an approval rating of 57 percent, according to a poll released Wednesday hours after US President Donald Trump said Zelensky's rating was just four percent.

www.rfi.fr

So Zelensky has a net poll rating of 20%

Trump approval rating 46% disapproval rating 48%

So Trump has a net approval rating of -2%

Donald Trump's popularity, Democrats' response, Elon Musk, DOGE, and Gaza: February 9-11, 2025 Economist/YouGov Poll | YouGov

This week’s Economist/YouGov poll covers Donald Trump's popularity, his executive orders, congressional responses, Elon Musk, DOGE, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

today.yougov.com

 

[blup]

Because Putin wants to recreate the Russian Empire, and he considers that neighbouring countries should not be independent sovereign nations, but should be colonies owned and ruled by Russia.

He is definitely after an empire

And because he incorrectly believed that like the Czechoslovskia and Hungary of his youth, and the Poland and Lithuania of his father's day, the invaded countries would collapse as his mighty army rolled over them.

He was mis advised on this but has an almost endless supply of arms and more importantly men to see it through in the long term.

 

[Notch7]

On this thread we are seeing rather too much false information being posted about Ukraine, Zelensky, Russia.

This shows how the right wing populists pushing it control the narrative