Trump Re Ukraine

[IT Minion]

Not afraid to be called out on a computer screen no. I have served in the army and it is very easy to get carried away being brave sat on your computer at home and safe. Not so great for the poor soldiers who are fighting. I am sure everyone of them hopes for this to end regardless of the price of a bit of land.

Absolutely, it's why we let the Argentinians keep the Falklands.

 

[Odds]

Not afraid to be called out on a computer screen no. I have served in the army and it is very easy to get carried away being brave sat on your computer at home and safe. Not so great for the poor soldiers who are fighting. I am sure everyone of them hopes for this to end regardless of the price of a bit of land.

Every nation at some time or other has paid in blood for 'a bit of land' - Ukrainians are doing so right now, and are fully prepared to keep shelling out so long as they can. I'm surprised a military man as you would say such a thing. Was you in the Falklands? A lot of folk at the time thought it not worth the trouble of defending them.

 

[Odds]

Hardly, they've had to drop the conscription age down to 18 years from 25 years.

The American's have pushed Ukraine to lower the age limit but it remains at 25. They prefer not to use their troops in senseless frontal assaults like the Russians persist in so doing. Trump's a bigger idiot than he looks if he thinks they'll accept peace on his terms.

 

[denso13]

They've clearly decimated their active male populace, would be my first thought.

Yes. Thanks to Pootin's illegal invasion.

 

[Notch7]

They've clearly decimated their active male populace, would be my first thought

Having 10,000 artillery shells fired at you every day for a thousand day would probably do that

Although far more Russians have died

 

[Odds]

Why would the US push Ukraine to lower the conscription age unless they are running out of manpower? This is serious food for thought no? They've clearly decimated their active male populace, would be my first thought.

Your second thought should consider increasing the number of troops on active service in order to combat the regular flow of Russians to the frontlines. Kill a hundred Ivans and a thousand are ready to take his place.

 

[Notch7]

Trumps latest diatribe on Ukraine….

It’s frankly shocking to hear a leader of America blatantly push Russian misinformation and propaganda.

Factchecking Donald Trump’s claims about the war in Ukraine

As US-Russia talks continue in Saudi Arabia, we look at the US president’s misleading and outright false statements

www.theguardian.com

 

[Notch7]

This is deeply disturbing for the West.

The lies and misinformation emanating from Trump is indeed disturbing.

The faster he tanks the USA economy, the faster US citizens will turn against him.

 

[MNW67]

The lies and misinformation emanating from Trump is indeed disturbing.

At face value it is shocking. But it might be part of some grand strategy. Otherwise, it is difficult to understand why Trump would spout such obvious lies in this situation.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I am totally shocked but as you say a real lefty site for sure, Sick of hearing the same old all of the time. Troll, is their favorite

This site is heavily right wing, with a bit of central and very little left.

The trouble with being so far right is that you can't see the centre

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You do not know anything yet. No details have been released. ~Stop getting yourself carried away.

You have read, seen or heard Trump ?

Throwing Ukraine under the bus.

Straight into pootins hands.

When do you think he will stop ?

 

[transam]

Well u got to hand it to trump he has certainly made a splash

More like a tidal wave I suppose ?

Akin to some lunatic taking over the asylum

 

[denso13]

You do not know anything yet. No details have been released.

Except Trumps position that ceding land is inevitable, joining NATO is out of the question and the USA and Russia should normalise relations. Unless he is lying again of course.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Well not to me, I think there must be some mistake. This cannot be the case.

Trump is not helping Ukraine of the west.

Just waving pootin on. Where next ?

 

[denso13]

He must be kidding

Being clever and outwitting Pootin during talks is one thing, announcing it to the world before talks is a whole new level of bellendery.