Why I care so much about Israel.

[fillyboy]

Yet they left a weak part of the border very poorly guarded, with many military on leave.
They organised a pop concert within 3 miles of the border point.
They claim to know the precise locations of Hamas, Iranian and Hezbollah leaders, to within a few metres, even in foreign countries.
But they have no idea of the whereabouts of the hostages in Gaza.
And they claim to have had no knowledge of the impending incursion in advance.

Yeah, and I'm related to Father Christmas.

The problem is created by Israeli subjugation of the Palestinians, in Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem.

Everyone loves a conspiracy theory, especially those 'left leaning' types. Could you tell your dad I'd like a Range Rover for Christmas, thanks.

 

[Notch7]

Everyone loves a conspiracy theory, especially those 'left leaning' types. Could you tell your dad I'd like a Range Rover for Christmas, thanks.

Almost all conspiracy theories come from the right

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Everyone loves a conspiracy theory, especially those 'left leaning' types. Could you tell your dad I'd like a Range Rover for Christmas, thanks.

He's says you can't have one 'cos you might take it to Spain and leave it there to use illegally for years.

 

[noseall]

Everyone loves a conspiracy theory, especially those 'left leaning' types.

Lol. The poorly educated gullible = right wing boyo. Suck it up.

Shmucks.

 

[transam]

Lol. The poorly educated gullible = right wing boyo. Suck it up.

Shmucks.

What a Shmuck ( noseall)

 

[Brigadier]

What a Shmuck ( noseall)

Forensic dissection of the issues there, Trans

 

[JohnD]

Zionist terrorists on the rampage again, another murder.

Palestinian killed as Israeli settlers torch West Bank village

The Israeli prime minister says he views the incident with “utmost severity”.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[fillyboy]

Zionist terrorists on the rampage again, another murder.

Palestinian killed as Israeli settlers torch West Bank village

The Israeli prime minister says he views the incident with “utmost severity”.

www.bbc.co.uk

Shocking, I for one condemn it. Israel needs to take action on this.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Shocking, I for one condemn it. Israel needs to take action on this.

What about all the other similar incidents of a similar nature?
What about the killing of innocent civilians in the West Bank by IDF?
etc, etc?

 

[ajohn]

Shocking, I for one condemn it. Israel needs to take action on this.

The more usual settler problem boils down to harassment. Little seems to be done about that. Extremists appear. It's a sort of natural evolution that can occur in all sorts of areas.

One interesting settler action was reported recently. A group formed on the web and they hired a bus. It wasn't a site seeing tour. It seems some Israeli function just watched. Police or IDF pass.

In minor situations such as a Palestinian complaining the same people issue some form of movement order that says go away for 24hrs. This is also used to clear areas for military activity - not the fighting type. Assume part of training etc.

 

[fillyboy]

What about all the other similar incidents of a similar nature?
What about the killing of innocent civilians in the West Bank by IDF?
etc, etc?

My long held and well documented position on the occupation of the west bank is available for all to see on the Armageddon thread. I think the settlements are illegal and Israel should withdraw.

 

[noseall]

a Shmuck

...and Brexit voters.
Conned shmucks.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

My long held and well documented position on the occupation of the west bank is available for all to see on the Armageddon thread. I think the settlements are illegal and Israel should withdraw.

Do you think 'withdrawal' is sufficient to right the wrongs of the immediate history?

 

[ajohn]

I think the settlements are illegal and Israel should withdraw.

Correct. However is this why Benjamin feels 2 states is now impossible? No one will force a withdrawal? Settler expansion moves have increased a lot of late showing Israel's intent. One aspect of the settlements was cheaper housing for Israeli that can't afford the cities. The prices of the ones that are there has increased. Sound familiar - build some more?

A feature of Israel. It's a tiny place
f Wales were an independent state it would be 153rd in the rankings of the world's 233 states and dependencies – slightly smaller than Israel (22,072 sq. kms.) and larger than Slovenia (20,273 sq. kms.), or Kuwait (17,818 sq.

 

[fillyboy]

Do you think 'withdrawal' is sufficient to right the wrongs of the immediate history?

It's probably the most the Palestinians could hope for, what would you suggest, that every single Israeli citizen line up and throw themselves off Masada.