Angela Rayner

[JonathanM]

Starmer will ditch her like he did the other toxic lefties.

This could work out really well for Starmer.

 

[noseall]

This could work out really well for Starmer.

Correct.

 

[fillyboy]

This could work out really well for Starmer.

Correct.

*snigger*

 

[JonathanM]

There are huge tensions between Starmer and Rayner. She is very powerful and he has to try to keep her sweet. If she ends up seriously damaged by this, I can't imagine Starmer will be too upset.

 

[blup]

In the absence of new developments she is ok so long as she keeping all the plates spinning.

 

[Notch7]

There are huge tensions between Starmer and Rayner. She is very powerful and he has to try to keep her sweet. If she ends up seriously damaged by this, I can't imagine Starmer will be too upset.

She is backed by Unison, so certainly has power.

I would imagine inside the party she is the leader of the left wing faction.

I see AR as being the equivalent as Two Jags was to Blair.

 

[JonathanM]

She is backed by Unison, so certainly has power.

I would imagine inside the party she is the leader of the left wing faction.

I see AR as being the equivalent as Two Jags was to Blair.

Much more powerful than Prescott. IMO. But not as powerful as Gordon Brown. Somewhere in between.

 

[fillyboy]

I would imagine inside the party she is the leader of the left wing faction.

I've always thought that, others aren't so sure.

What does Angela Rayner really want?

Don't underestimate her calculating ambition

unherd.com

 

[fillyboy]

Prescott

"Mine's a gin and tonic, Giovanni,"

 

[JonathanM]

"Mine's a gin and tonic, Giovanni,"

I had to look that up!

 

[Notch7]

I've always thought that, others aren't so sure.

What does Angela Rayner really want?

Don't underestimate her calculating ambition

unherd.com

The hardcore Corbyn cultists hate her, they want Labour to be a protest party in eternal opposition.

Mind you lots of those on the hard left have left and gone to the Green Party.

 

[Notch7]

Much more powerful than Prescott. IMO. But not as powerful as Gordon Brown. Somewhere in between.

I agree, but I was thinking of the situation.

Blair had Prescott as deputy…which I think was a “keep your enemy very close” strategy.

 

[fillyboy]

I had to look that up!

John initially used to glare at him when he said it, I think it went on for a few years and I've seen footage where JP breaks into a smile suggesting what was originally intended as a slur became good natured banter between the two. I suspect both Soames and Prescott had a sense of humour, you don't see much of that in politics today.

 

[Notch7]

There are huge tensions between Starmer and Rayner. She is very powerful and he has to try to keep her sweet. If she ends up seriously damaged by this, I can't imagine Starmer will be too upset.

The Conservatives / RW media are going after Rayner so hard because she is apparently a popular figure with the public.

Obviously her back story chimes with quite a lot of people and she is very supportive of workers rights and reform of care sector.

Personally I think her lack of sophistication as a politician makes her a risk for Labour, although she is pretty feisty and helps balance Starmers rather boring demeanour….although boring and steady is what this country needs right now

 

[Odds]

John initially used to glare at him when he said it, I think it went on for a few years and I've seen footage where JP breaks into a smile suggesting what was originally intended as a slur became good natured banter between the two. I suspect both Soames and Prescott had a sense of humour, you don't see much of that in politics today.

John P. was well known for his sense of humour - unless you egged him on too far.