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And then there will be a second wave and then a third...

How bad that turns out to be depends on how the richer countries help out the poorer ones.

We ignore that at our own peril!

Of course if/when there is a vaccine, who will get it first?
Obviously health workers should be first in line, but then money will talk as always.
Although how that will play out will be interesting because the whole world is bankrupt!

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How will that work then?
 
The median time in hospital is 11 days. Max reckoned to be 22 days. People can die in that range down to just a few hours after they go in. When some number of people go in on a particular day there will be a mix of that range. This is why some are reporting a 7 day rolling average - average the latest plus the previous 6. It evens out the variations in the people that went in on those days.

The death rates compared with infections rates across the 4 regions of the UK are a bit strange. For some reason England is much higher.

The daily total entries into hospital has exactly the same problem as people are infected randomly. Time to symptoms can be 5 to 11 days. So this would be expected to cause variations in the counts even if the rate had flattened out. The same will happen when this rate drops off.

There a a number of places with higher per capita infections than B'ham and London. B'ham for instance has been little different to all of Wales all along right from the start apart from the first week - maybe.
 
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There a a number of places with higher per capita infections than B'ham and London. B'ham for instance has been little different to all of Wales all along right from the start apart from the first week - maybe.
9 of the 10 worst affected areas in UK are in London.
 
And then there will be a second wave and then a third...

How bad that turns out to be depends on how the richer countries help out the poorer ones.

We ignore that at our own peril!

Of course if/when there is a vaccine, who will get it first?
Obviously health workers should be first in line, but then money will talk as always.
Although how that will play out will be interesting because the whole world is bankrupt!

Ctrl+Alt+Del and start again ?
Trump will come up with a vaccine pretty quick, it will be beautiful and save the world.

Best buddy Boris will ensure we get the vaccine early, and other European countries will have to denounce the EU and sign up for chlorinated chicken before being allowed any.
 
Trump will come up with a vaccine pretty quick, it will be beautiful and save the world.

Best buddy Boris will ensure we get the vaccine early, and other European countries will have to denounce the EU and sign up for chlorinated chicken before being allowed any.
Correct - except that it will be tremendous and the best vaccine ever produced. Boris will also have to denounce the WHO and publicly state (preferably in the White House war room) that it was all Chinas fault and the WHO's fault that he said the virus is nothing to worry about and that by a miracle it would disappear even though he made incredulous statements after the WHO declared a world pandemic.
 
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I've wanted to plot with calc at times but couldn't be bothered to completely find out how. So infections by major health region

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Had to be log scale to see all of the lines. Day 30 should be today. Whoops it was 4 days ago
 
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Not sure what to make of this

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Not much except that the situation is worse in England (London?).
However, while the overall Death/Case for the UK may be similar to that which I posted for the UK in #199 (I have not done the calculation) you have not posted Death/Population - which may avoid the problem of "unreported" cases.
 
2 days of smaller numbers - lets hope that isn't bank holiday/ easter reporting issues. But I suspect it might be.
 
2 days of smaller numbers - lets hope that isn't bank holiday/ easter reporting issues. But I suspect it might be.

The only thing that is statisticaly levelling is hospital entries / occupation levels both only in several areas of the country.
 
Why aren't deaths in the community and care homes included in the daily stats.
According to the news there have been coronavirus outbreaks in 92 care homes.
 
Its likely down to who is involved in the collection and reporting of the data. If they aren't in the loop they won't be submitting data. Given we are likely to hit 12,000 today this may only account for an extra 5-10%
 
Why aren't deaths in the community and care homes included in the daily stats.
According to the news there have been coronavirus outbreaks in 92 care homes.
The "international standard" is to only report deaths in hospitals. That can be provided quickly and definitely relates to people who have the virus.

The total figures from the UK are collected by the office of national statistics from death certificates and it takes a while to produce figures. It counts any mention of CV19. Last time it was updated was in March. There is some doubt based on a whistle blower that figures will be correct. Deaths in some categories higher than usual and GP's seeming to be reluctant to mention CV19 - according to who ever it was anyway.

92 care homes is 13% of the total. Not sure if this includes nursing homes. Then there are condos that often contain a lot of elderly but capable of looking after themselves people.
 
Death rate upto week ending 3 april is 6000 above average, 217 deaths in care homes, figures available on ONS website :(
 
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