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Do you know how many countries have paid? give you a clue most haven't,why not shame ALL of them.
Report on the news that China pressurised the WHO into giving them a favourable report on this flu caper or excluding or delaying the publication of certain facts
No surprise WHO is part of the UN
China a global super power
No surprise WHO is part of the UN
China a global super power
Report on the news that China pressurised the WHO into giving them a favourable report on this flu caper or excluding or delaying the publication of certain facts
No surprise WHO is part of the UN
China a global super power
Junk crap. Get your news from some one else.
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Some really informative and interesting information on here and I thank the contributors. Particular thanks to ajohn, Munroist, IT Minion, Motorbiking - apologies if I have left anyone out. However, can we avoid letting JohnD drag it down with his political obsessions and propoganda. Let him bang his gong on another thread elsewhere. Please keep this thread mainly about Covid stats and science.
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Up a bit today, 778 but still off the peak. trouble is the new admissions is still big.
Here are some stats - week ending 3 April.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825
A somewhat meaningless article.
What are the usual expected figures for a bad flu week?
Presumably considerably more than 10,000.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825
A somewhat meaningless article.
So nearly four in five are not.
Mentioned?
So did 12,525 that were not covid 'mentioned'
So 2,525 extra from other causes as well as the 10,000 expected.
It's later this year.
What are the usual expected figures for a bad flu week?
Presumably considerably more than 10,000.
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In the UK? , no idea. But working on figures from a couple of years ago, total deaths in the UK,not just flu, averaged about 1700 a day.
Still weekend numbers, expect them to be higher tomorrow.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...rofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25
So 50,000 in a really bad year. Spread from October to May, peaking December to Feb. So in a bad year, maybe 4,000 at its peak week.
So, week ending April 3rd was as bad as it's ever been compared to the winter flu and twice as bad as the worst week in a normal year.
Edit: actually much worse as those numbers are for excess winter deaths, not just flu.
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I read that article too. No clue what point they were trying to make? Are they suggesting we have another few thousand deaths to account for? I guess there will be heart attack and stroke victims avoiding hospital until it’s too late.
While this is "öld news" here, note that
"The hospital confirmed late Friday night that the COVID-19 diagnoses were not determined until after the (cancer patient) men's condition worsened."
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ology-ward-at-the-alfred-20200327-p54elx.html
I understand that, so far, 3 oncology ward patients patients in that hospital have died "with Covid19" if not necessarily "from" Covid19.
"The hospital confirmed late Friday night that the COVID-19 diagnoses were not determined until after the (cancer patient) men's condition worsened."
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ology-ward-at-the-alfred-20200327-p54elx.html
I understand that, so far, 3 oncology ward patients patients in that hospital have died "with Covid19" if not necessarily "from" Covid19.
They have moved and changed the information page. No mention of hospital entries now. That in my view was the best way of tracking the current situation,
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#countries
It now shows total lab confirmed cases and that has levelled off more apparently down to the change of the scale.Also a daily bar chart. It's not clear if those are just hospital entries. There has been a dramatic drop of if they are - fell off a cliff style. Deaths still rising. Total associated deaths now ~12,000 and daily hospital deaths in a bar chart. Can't see how associated deaths can be correct unless it includes in the community - that lags and some of the info that is available is seen to be dubious.
No xls spread sheet file now either.
So if correct things are improving. For some reason they seem to have got hung up on the fact that external labs are testing. The hospital occupancy figures are only shown in the daily brief on the beeb,
No mention of hospital entries now. That in my view was the best way of tracking the current situation,https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#countries
It now shows total lab confirmed cases and that has levelled off more apparently down to the change of the scale.Also a daily bar chart. It's not clear if those are just hospital entries. There has been a dramatic drop of if they are - fell off a cliff style. Deaths still rising. Total associated deaths now ~12,000 and daily hospital deaths in a bar chart. Can't see how associated deaths can be correct unless it includes in the community - that lags and some of the info that is available is seen to be dubious.
No xls spread sheet file now either.
So if correct things are improving. For some reason they seem to have got hung up on the fact that external labs are testing. The hospital occupancy figures are only shown in the daily brief on the beeb,
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Looking at the 5 and 10 day averages gives some hope (though we'd want them to cross). We'll have a better view at the end of the week.
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