Big Numbers today

I read that article too. No clue what point they were trying to make? Are they suggesting we have another few thousand deaths to account for? I guess there will be heart attack and stroke victims avoiding hospital until it’s too late.

There has been several years when flu has caused a spike - you can see the average spike from the average bar. Some flues cause a lot more than others. You may hear comments like the flu jabs last year didn't achieve much - 2015 for instance, jabs from 2014. The latest spike is much higher = CV19 even if a poor year based on flue jabs not doing what they should have. Those don't happen that often. C4 had a whistle blower that reckons doctors in the community seem to be reluctant to state CV19 as the cause of death based on too many mentions of illness that have similar symptoms - seems some GP's haven't even gone and looked or have viewed the body by video.

Then he goes on to deaths not due to CV19 but caused by it being around. Eg treatment that need immune suppression or treatments that weaken the immune system. Also the drop in general hospital entries for all sorts of things - some of these will result in some people dying.

To be honest I am more worried personally about future low death rates. Some one who was 72 was interviewed outside of a supermarket. Interviewer said you should be isolating -3months, still 2 to go. The man said I am shopping - has to, no one else to do it. Stats show that survival rates if hospital is needed drop off at around 65 by the look of it and it's rather noticeable. There are something like 14million over 65's in the country. I wonder how many need to shop and what will happen as lock downs are relaxed. If the virus is around and evenly spread it will be a bit like playing russian roulette each time they go out. Death figures low but maybe continuing for a long time.

Sounds like the vulnerable groups lock down has been extended by a month. That groups was selected on the basis of medication use and a few other aspects. Might be 1.5million of them, all sorts of ages.
 
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I presume that is a bit of satire.

If Trump comes up with a vaccine I' m sure it will be Tremendous (ly) expensive
yes and no; the USA are quite likely to be the country that comes up with a vaccine, it will be a bitter sweet moment with trump claiming victory and awarding himself a chestful of medals.

I hope we will be seeing that day very soon
 
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We do't need a vaccine (well, obviously we do!) we need to provide our NHS workers with the tools they need to save lives, including their own!

Would be nice if our government didn't just decide to take a long holiday too. All they do is talk, surely they have heard of the telephone, even if they cannot work out how to use a computer?
 
I'm wondering if we are missing a trick with recycling these items. I get the impression staff are getting through these things at a rate on knots.
 
One issue / problem throws up another issue

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Has caused issues with the oxygen due to demand on distribution supplies in hospitals and is requiring engineering solutions

Private care homes / hospitals plenty use to procure there own PPE and did not use the NHS for procurement
 
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We do't need a vaccine (well, obviously we do!) we need to provide our NHS workers with the tools they need to save lives, including their own!

Would be nice if our government didn't just decide to take a long holiday too. All they do is talk, surely they have heard of the telephone, even if they cannot work out how to use a computer?

Ball cocks :rolleyes:

That letter is not what a fella representing 200 care homes ect in the private sector was saying on the radio news / interview

Or another consultant doctor speaking from his hospital

Usual spiel grub up something to fit yer own narrative
 
Some thing like 40000 extra hospital beds created in what 3 or 4 weeks ;)

Political party members :LOL: Jeez us wept

**** e**s ;)
 
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We do't need a vaccine (well, obviously we do!) we need to provide our NHS workers with the tools they need to save lives, including their own!
I am sure they have figured it out and not lieing in bed all day.

Would be nice if our government didn't just decide to take a long holiday too. All they do is talk, surely they have heard of the telephone, even if they cannot work out how to use a computer?
 
Ball cocks :rolleyes:

That letter is not what a fella representing 200 care homes ect in the private sector was saying on the radio news / interview

Or another consultant doctor speaking from his hospital

Usual spiel grub up something to fit yer own narrative

Maybe the others were talking ball cocks? What did they say?

But more importantly, what do you have against providing the nhs with what they need the beat this?
 
Maybe the others were talking ball cocks? What did they say?

But more importantly, what do you have against providing the nhs with what they need the beat this?

Nothing absolutely nothing at all

But we are in un charted waters

Some decide to take advantage of a pandemic to push there political narrative

WTF do you or they want us to do?

Feel guilty because some in here voted for buffoon Johnson as opposed to buffoon Corbyn or perhaps we should all start some type of revolution storm parliament

Lynch a tory MP?
 
I'm wondering if we are missing a trick with recycling these items. I get the impression staff are getting through these things at a rate on knots.

Are you trotting out the "wasteful use" smear?
 
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