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Humans population density is clearly a factor.
Im not sure how easy it is to compare, average population density population figures are meaningless -in depends on where people live.

Im sure cities in Germany are as densely populated as in the UK
 
The chemistry part of it takes less than half an hour. Given enough labs working on it and the required logistics next day or same day is generally possible.

People with it get full medical grade isolation, and monitoring, people without stick to social distancing.

That will give them the needed info but I'd wonder about medical isolation - at home different matter. I don't know how many hospital beds they have available. They did initaially have more ICU's than us. I do know the figures for stays in hospital 1 to 25 days so they average it at 11. That appears to come from China's figures. Many of the stats do.

So 100,000. Can't have 100,000 standing 2m apart - it's not easy how ever it's done. The USA probably have a lot of cases from people queuing for tests. From video's the only good thing was a lot were wearing masks. I'm now getting the impression that more think this helps with spreading. It's why I bought a few some time ago. Some one here might catch it. It might help.

I've heard that the Korean's got testing down to 2 hrs total turn round time and got the numbers up by running their own sources of testing kits in overdrive. Must have needed a lot of people to run the tests even in a day. They have been testing people who arrive into the country but the population aren't happy so may have locked that down now - 2hrs is enough time for a contained group of people to spread it.

China it seems are isolating arrivals for 14 days. I assume if some one develops it that extends the time. They have fairly recently reported that these were the only case that they were getting.

People being told to isolate for 7 days if they show symptoms excludes the incubation period. The 14 days accounts for that by being a max of 11 days before symptoms show. That's the reason testing for it is tricky as our lot and others see it anyway. It ruled out testing airport arrivals and it sounds like Korea is may be having problems with this.
 
In a way it is. It goes back to WWII and helping their economy to recover - buy German it's the best etc. The view has spread out of Germany.
German car branding is certainly sold on reliability, yet the most reliaible cars in the world are Japanese: Toyota and Honda

The UK is label driven so everybody seems to want a Merc
 
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They have a better funded health service.
and many more testing laboratories.
Lets take that as fact for a moment. Given there isn't yet any known cure, or effective treatment other than o2 to the brian and antibiotics for the pneumonia. How would that translate into substantially lower deaths?
 
Im not sure how easy it is to compare, average population density population figures are meaningless -in depends on where people live.

Im sure cities in Germany are as densely populated as in the UK

I've only every visited one apartment block in London but going on that one it would increase spread rapidly by people going in and out. That style of living is very prevalent in many countries. There is a high degree of inner city living in London as well. Maybe Germany is a little different. It's clear that population density has had an effect in the UK going on the health region statistics.
 
German car branding is certainly sold on reliability, yet the most reliaible cars in the world are Japanese: Toyota and Honda

Don't Audi normally top the chart for unreliability in the JD Power surveys
 
Lets take that as fact for a moment. Given there isn't yet any known cure, or effective treatment other than o2 to the brian and antibiotics for the pneumonia. How would that translate into substantially lower deaths?
thats a bit of a strawman -a lack of effective treatment is not the only route to reduction in deaths, as I am sure you know


A healthcare system that is not overloaded will be able to cope better with a surge in demand for ICU beds and ventilators. It is therefore less likely to have to make difficult triage decisions on who gets a ventilator.

also I mentioned Germany has more testing laboratories and has more capacity to do more testing
More testing can reduce strain on healthcare staff reducing liklehood of contracting CV
More testing is the route to ending the lockdown -so it may cost Germany less.
 
No one is sure why Germany has had such a low mortality rate. There's loads of theories and probably lots of contributing factors. They are one of the few countries that seem to have even slightly reliable numbers for number of cases.
 
Don't Audi normally top the chart for unreliability in the JD Power surveys
no

its mostly US brands :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

  • T15. Acura. 2017 Acura RDX. ...
  • Ram. 2017 Ram 1500. FCA North America Media. ...
  • Mini. Mini Cooper S. BMW. ...
  • Subaru. 2017 Subaru Impreza. Subaru. ...
  • Dodge. 2017 Dodge Charger. FCA. ...
  • Fiat. 2017 Fiat 500X. ...
  • Volvo. Volvo XC90. ...
  • Chrysler. 2017 Chrysler 300
 
German car branding is certainly sold on reliability, yet the most reliaible cars in the world are Japanese: Toyota and Honda

The UK is label driven so everybody seems to want a Merc

I know rather a lot about the UK car industry having worked in it all of the time. ;) They were preparing for none well before it happened and were literally given a reputation that they didn't really deserve. Same applies to various bits in them as well - mostly preparing to have them made outside of the UK. Then it happened. Slowly at first with various European makers and then along came the Japanese who really did offer something different as soon as they started to arrive even in very low numbers.
 
no

its mostly US brands :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

  • T15. Acura. 2017 Acura RDX. ...
  • Ram. 2017 Ram 1500. FCA North America Media. ...
  • Mini. Mini Cooper S. BMW. ...
  • Subaru. 2017 Subaru Impreza. Subaru. ...
  • Dodge. 2017 Dodge Charger. FCA. ...
  • Fiat. 2017 Fiat 500X. ...
  • Volvo. Volvo XC90. ...
  • Chrysler. 2017 Chrysler 300

Pulling up their North American survey probably would have some US brands, I think we're more interested in the UK survey aren't we.

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/jd-power-uk-vehicle-dependability-2019/
 
I know rather a lot about the UK car industry having worked in it all of the time. ;) They were preparing for none well before it happened and were literally given a reputation that they didn't really deserve. Same applies to various bits in them as well - mostly preparing to have them made outside of the UK. Then it happened. Slowly at first with various European makers and then along came the Japanese who really did offer something different as soon as they started to arrive even in very low numbers.

I know Toyota and Honda led the way on Just in time, continuous improvement through lean manufacture etc.
I believe the SMED method to reduce set up times originated at Honda.

I dont know much about the German car industry -apart from diesel gate.

I do know fillyboy is right about Audi having serious reliability problems (dont tell him though) -I can remember seeing them low down reliability lists quite a few years ago.
 
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