Budget

[ajohn]

Seems to have gone quiet on the 1.5 million new homes Labour promised. That would solve all the problems wouldn't it.

No but it helps and don't forget affordable rents and some council houses. As council houses need to be self funded I don't expect huge numbers of new builds. That aspect also influences time scales for improving existing stock where that is feasible. The other option is demolish and rebuild. Then comes the question of what the council does about the land if they go that way. If they retain ownership new builds would have to be sold leasehold.

The self funding aspect does not generate much excess for building more or improvements.

 

[Andydevon]

I am all for increasing housing stock and it's the other side of supply and demand.

Equally it's an extremely complex area where the Gov and local authorities have a duty but rely on 3rd part HA or the private sector. I am not a fan of State control, but in this case I don't see any unifying plan or delivery model to bring all the different aspects together without a degree of leadership from the Gov.

I suspect politics will get in the way though.

 

[noseall]

Why do you have to (try to) craft a question so as to preclude an answer that doesn't suit you?

MBK, all day long.

 

[ajohn]

Yes of course the "workers" don't understand the value they bring, if they did, they might be further up the chain.

A load of crap for various reasons that even ignores the number of higher echelon jobs there are in an organisation.

 

[Notch7]

Your not wrong Notch7 but we aren't even hearing the upscaling in production, training of new workers, engaging with the big 6. Just relaxing planning.

Planning easy to say but delivery will be frightening even for Big Ang

theres zero chance Labour party will meet their target, not a hope in hell.........I applaud them for trying, but they are setting themselves up for a fail


increasing the workforce has to be a constraint, I rather doubt there are many tradesmen sitting at home twiddling their thumbs, I doubt there is much spare capacity.

Theres always importing labour.........but construction was a sector that was affected by FOM, so I cant see that being an option

There is a shortage of tradesmen anyway, customers struggle to get decent people to do work.

It takes a certain type of tradesman to want to do new build, house bashing is not for everybody


All I can say is those of us that own houses are very lucky

 

[Brigadier]

House prices are a factor of demand and supply.

Build more then.
While housing is seen as an investment, a means of passive income, its "value" will continue to outstrip the ability of the average person to afford it (whether that be to rent, or to buy).

There is no wealthy persons club where prices are secretly set to f** the poor.

By restricting supply, there effectively is.

 

[motorbiking]

MBK, all day long.

When you build an extension for someone do you do it for free?

Or do you expect the customer to give you "their money", in exchange for work you do.

 

[motorbiking]

Build more then.
While housing is seen as an investment, a means of passive income, its "value" will continue to outstrip the ability of the average person to afford it (whether that be to rent, or to buy).



By restricting supply, there effectively is.

Plenty of affordable houses. I went to see a nice 3 bed terrace at the weekend for £180k. In Staffordshire that gets you a semi or better.

 

[Brigadier]

which bit of, nothing stops you, didn't you get?

You seem to want the benefits without the talent, risk and work needed.

Not at all: I want the gap closing. It is too wide in the UK, and getting wider.

It is not realistic for everyone to have an Aston Martin: it is realistic for everyone to not need a foodbank or parcel, just to get by.

 

[motorbiking]

Not at all: I want the gap closing. It is too wide in the UK, and getting wider.

It is not realistic for everyone to have an Aston Martin: it is realistic for everyone to not need a foodbank or parcel, just to get by.

I have no problem with the gap closing as long as the solution is helping people better themselves, by giving them the skills to be more valuable.

I'd love the bottom 50% to be able to pay more tax.

 

[ajohn]

I am all for increasing housing stock and it's the other side of supply and demand.

The main problem is what ever is done needs to be feasible so I outlined one aspect of that.

Nothing happening now all quiet etc. No. Rayner is questioning right to buy on council houses. You may say Labour is. There is a need to consider what right to buy did to council house stock. The final step in removing one from the pool is the owner buys the freehold. Time needed way short of the likely lifetime of the house.

So build some more and allow the same thing to happen again? Do remember the self funding aspect in terms of building and improving remaining stock.

 

[ajohn]

I'd love the bottom 50% to be able to pay more tax.

Fact. Remove the bottom end and each of the 3 other sectors pay ~30% of the take.

 

[motorbiking]

Fact. Remove the bottom end and each of the 3 other sectors pay ~30% of the take.

I'd be very happy to pay 30% tax on all my income - is that what you meant?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yep and they get fired at the drop of a hat.

Very rarely without a (big) severance package

 

[Brigadier]

Yep and they get fired at the drop of a hat.

And yet, you previously said that you need two years to get rid of someone, sometimes only because "they're not a good fit".

I have the solution to your quandary.
Don't employ lawyers who you reckon you can't bullet: employ CEOs who you reckon you can.