EV are they worth it?

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408 miles in an EV yesterday. Workington to Whitstable. Stopped once for a wee and a drink and charged for 11 minutes. Stopped again for dinner and charged for 33 minutes. Probably should have eaten a bit faster, as I put a bit too much in...

Fires - 0
Breakdowns -
New tyres - 0
New batteries -0
 
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Talking of breakdowns, are there any figures for ice v ev I wonder?

Fairly sure I know which us more likely, new or old.
 
My old mini, 1960's model, would break down quite often, back then all cars did. To get figures of post 2010 cars electric v fossil fuel engine would be hard, but if one does not count running out of fuel, then I would say the electric is likely to win.

Big question, is why the push for electric when we look at report on North Wales mainline electrification it is clear the government does not really want electric transport, or there would be no way the plans could be axed.

When all main lines are electric, then time to look at cars.
 
Big question, is why the push for electric when we look at report on North Wales mainline electrification it is clear the government does not really want electric transport, or there would be no way the plans could be axed.

When all main lines are electric, then time to look at cars.


It's easy to make "all cars" electric: houses with off-road parking can have their own charge points, and public charge points could be installed with increasing frequency.
Increase generation capacity, and Bob's your uncle.

Trainline electrification is not relevant as, while it is simple, it is also niche. Train usage pales in comparison with car usage.
 
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and public charge points could be installed with increasing frequency.
This is not working, local we had two charge points, they took the space needed to park three cars. Then they installed another 4, yes space needed for 6 normal cars, and they wanted to stop normal cars parking by chargers, and with the first 2, there is a problem where the EV user has to move their car to make room for others to use the charger.

Where I work we have space for around 60 cars, it is not enough, even as it stands, a train (I work at a station) can carry around 100 passengers, so the time between train arriving, then departing again, need spaces for around 200 people, OK some cars may have 6 people in them, but summer we have to revert to parking on the grass as it is.

Cutting parking down by 1/3 is simply not an option. I saw a report of how Rhyl can now charge 50 cars, come on, it's a sea side town, that relies on visitors, forget 50 cars, even 500 cars would not be enough.

We already have places that use diesel generators to supply EV charging points, the main point about trains, they run mainly on the flat, OK local railway 1:29 which is steep, but one engine can pull 4 carriages, even on our steep line, that's a lot of people for around 180 HP. OK a bit slow, 16 MPH speed limit, but this is Wales even cars have 20 MPH speed limit in the towns.
 
Where I work we have space for around 60 cars, it is not enough, even as it stands, a train (I work at a station) can carry around 100 passengers, so the time between train arriving, then departing again, need spaces for around 200 people, OK some cars may have 6 people in them, but summer we have to revert to parking on the grass as it is.

Cutting parking down by 1/3 is simply not an option. I saw a report of how Rhyl can now charge 50 cars, come on, it's a sea side town, that relies on visitors, forget 50 cars, even 500 cars would not be enough.

I'm really struggling to see the point you're trying to make, Eric.

Your workplace doesn't have enough car parking as it is.
What does that have to do with EV?
And, for only "100 people", you're making a good case for binning the train altogether, as it would take disproportionate investment to make it practical.


Rhyl doesn't have hundreds of EV charge points.
That would only matter if hundreds of cars relied on Rhyl for their charge boost.
In reality, most EV users - like most ICE users - don't drive around "on fumes", desperately looking for their next hit (of juice, or electrons).
 
408 miles in an EV yesterday. Workington to Whitstable. Stopped once for a wee and a drink and charged for 11 minutes. Stopped again for dinner and charged for 33 minutes. Probably should have eaten a bit faster, as I put a bit too much in...

Fires - 0
Breakdowns -
New tyres - 0
New batteries -0
I did groceries on SAT eve.

Fires - 0
Breakdowns -
New tyres - 0
New batteries -0
Charging - none
Checking app - none
Go on internet for proof of life from EV fire - none
Fire risk to house - none
 
No. You are not licenced to fix them.


But you do have to worry about fire. Your shop insurance doesn't cover it.
Interesting how you (don't) know that.

What licence is needed?

Insurance is arranged to cover the needs and risks required and specified.
 
What licence is needed?
Most likely a licence to park and tamper with an incendiary vehicle.

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Can anyone work on an EV?

Electric vehicles need servicing and maintenance just like petrol and diesel cars. But not every mechanic can work on EVs. In fact, they need specialist qualifications and training from the Institute of the Motor Industry (IMI) - the Professional Body for people working in the automotive sector.
 
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Most likely a licence to park and tamper with an incendiary vehicle.

Internet:

Can anyone work on an EV?

Electric vehicles need servicing and maintenance just like petrol and diesel cars. But not every mechanic can work on EVs. In fact, they need specialist qualifications and training from the Institute of the Motor Industry (IMI) - the Professional Body for people working in the automotive sector.
yes. But its not a licence. Ive chosen not to take the training and qualifications, but its not a barrier to any competent person who wants to. Am I interested in doing the training course and moving with the times, no. I am looking to slow down and retire, so it's a convenient point for me to start looking for a hook to hang my stuff up on. But i can't convince myself, let alone anybody else that ice cars are the future.

But does that mean you can't work on your own electric vehicle? No.
 
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