Two Tier Keir Strikes Again

18 days to go until being a white heterosexual or homosexual male will see you sentenced differently for committing a crime in the UK in comparison to an ethnic heterosexual or homosexual male or female.
 
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'On Thursday, the Sentencing Council - which is independent but sponsored by the government - said it would look at her objections in detail, but did not commit to reversing course immediately.

Get ready for fudge! Better than one side having to swallow humble pie.
 

'The research used by the Sentencing Council to justify its proposed “two-tier” justice rules stops short of saying that ethnicity has a significant impact on sentencing outcomes.

The analysis also failed to account for major differences in the types of crimes committed by different ethnicities, which has a significant impact on overall sentencing outcomes. In large part, this comes down to the acknowledged weakness of the analysis.

The difference in the proportion of offenders receiving a community order, however, was found to have grown – amounting to 15 per cent for black offenders in 2018 compared to 19 per cent for white offenders.

However, this resulting “slightly widening gap” was not taken to constitute “evidence of a disparity in outcomes” because of both the imbalance in the numbers sentenced – 13,800 black offenders and 109,500 white offenders in 2019 – and the mix in the severity of the cases they were tried for.

The review said black offenders were far more likely to be sentenced for drug offences, with 39 per cent of them punished for such crimes in 2019, compared with 16 per cent of white offenders.

In contrast, that same year, 33 per cent of white offenders were sentenced for theft, compared with 17 per cent of black offenders.

While black people account for just 4.9 per cent of offenders in magistrates’ courts, they make up 9.5 per cent of offenders in crown courts.

This, in part, explains why community sentence rates are lower for black people, because the crimes they are punished for in crown courts are less likely to have lenient outcomes.

By 2023, examining solely community sentence rates in “either-way” cases in magistrates’ courts, which could have potentially gone to crown court, the gap was just 25.1 per cent for black offenders and 26.7 per cent for white offenders, Telegraph analysis of Ministry of Justice data shows.'
Isnt that the Telegraph getting confused? Using the same source MBK linked to rather than the Lammy review which was more detailed and the actual cause of these changes?
 
Isnt that the Telegraph getting confused? Using the same source MBK linked to rather than the Lammy review which was more detailed and the actual cause of these changes?
I don't think so necessarily. I think the 2021 report is off the back of the 2017 review but I could be wrong.
 
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I don't think so necessarily. I think the 2021 report is off the back of the 2017 review but I could be wrong.

I wasn't totally convinced by the Telegraph. I got the feeling they might be cherry picking statistics.
 
I wasn't totally convinced by the Telegraph. I got the feeling they might be cherry picking statistics.
I am surprised there is little to no outrage on here regards the discrimination towards non-ethnic homosexual men which is about to be legislated.
 
I am surprised there is little to no outrage on here regards the discrimination towards non-ethnic homosexual men which is about to be legislated.

Why are you concentrating on homosexual men in particular. Aren't all non-ethnic men affected, whether they are heterosexual or homosexual. Unless I have got the guidance wrong :unsure:
 
18 days to go until being a white heterosexual or homosexual male will see you sentenced differently for committing a crime in the UK in comparison to an ethnic heterosexual or homosexual male or female.
Nonsense, it covers pre-sentencing reports not sentencing itself.
 
Nonsense, it covers pre-sentencing reports not sentencing itself.

3. Pre-sentence reports (PSRs)​

Requesting a PSR​

When considering a community or custodial sentence, the court must request and consider a pre-sentence report (PSR) before forming an opinion of the sentence, unless it considers that it is unnecessary (section 30 of the Sentencing Code). A pre-sentence report may also be requested by a defence legal representative as part of the before-plea protocol.
 
which guide magistrates and judges, on sentencing.

Its two-tier justice.

There is an assumption that BAME men get harsher sentences than White Men. The solution is not to investigate why (e.g. type of crime, violence, organised etc). But to find a way to give lower sentences. Enter the pre-sentence report. Job done, box ticked.

Female or BAME.
Get a report.
Male and White
No report.
 
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