Who started the riots with misinformation? A white right winger? Nah!

[denso13]

and 67% of all people blamed immigration as the cause.

No, they blamed immigration policy.

 

[Mottie]

Do you disagree with the polling methodology, if so please say where and why.

Ok but first tell me the polling methodology as you understand it.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

The folk blaming the riots on immigration evidently don't watch or read enough news. A fair few folk rioting didn't even know why they were (rioting).

Oh dear, is Farage not liking the riots being attributed to him ... what a shame. Maybe he'll stop using folk like Andrew Tate as info sources and learn from this.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Brexit went racist after a fashion for some or have you forgotten.

I suggest you consult my earlier post:

Not all Brexiteers are racists.
But you can bet your life that all racists voted for Brexit, in the false hope that it would reduce immigration.

 

[ajohn]

1 in 5 labour voters blamed immigrants for the riots according to this You Gov poll and 67% of all people blamed immigration as the cause.

Like most good polls all sorts of questions are asked. Must be something wrong with F3 in my browser. Immigrants only brings up this
But there are some less intrinsic splits too. Reform voters are noticeably more likely to blame immigration policy – a near unanimous 95% viewing it as a contributing factor – with eight in ten (82%) also seeing immigrants themselves as responsible, more than the half (49%) who blame far-right groups and the three in ten (31%) who view Tommy Robinson as somewhat culpable.

So how did you derive your numbers? Maybe I have missed something, Wider protests not by the rioters is an entirely different subject.

There is also another significant section
Again there is an element of a partisan divide, but even among the more generally sympathetic Reform voters, only three in ten (29%) feel the rioters are representative of wider Britain, compared to six in ten (62%) feeling they aren’t. The only people who feel the rioters are some kind of ‘silent majority’ are those who support the unrest, six in ten of whom (62%) are under the impression that their views are widely shared.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Maybe they do but it depends where the sample was taken and even so, nowhere apart from in Notch's post have I seen them described as "The Farage riots" let alone 50% of people using the term as notch says. I saw an article on the BBC the other night from America where everyone interviewed were still staunch supporters of Trump. Where were they being asked - at a redneck tractor death and destruction derby event!

Do you disagree with the polling methodology, if so please say where and why.

Ok but first tell me the polling methodology as you understand it.

If Mottie wants to know about the polllig method used by Savanta, he only has to go onto the Savanta website for a bit of research.
To expect another to do his research for him smacks as idleness. Or maybe he genuinely doesn't know how to do a bit of research.
If he can't do the research, he won't understand the polling methodology.

All the information is there, in the article presented by Notch and on the Savanta web site.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Over half the population blame the Farage riots on Farage.

The other half are correct.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

1 in 5 labour voters blamed immigrants for the riots according to this You Gov poll and 67% of all people blamed immigration as the cause.

The public reaction to the 2024 riots | YouGov

Few Britons support the disorder, with the vast majority saying it is unjustified and that the views of the rioters are not representative of the wider population

yougov.co.uk

No, they blamed immigration policy.

Just to confirm what Denso said:

Interestingly, the recent Tory government was considered only very slightly less responsible than Yaxel;y-Lennon.

from Charlie George's link.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

The other half are correct.

Since when has 33% been 'the other half'?

It proves reganandcarter opened his mouth before consulting the data.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

No, they blamed immigration policy.

Obvious to me - for the hard of thinking...

The riots were initiated by the completely uncontrolled immigration, but they were made much worse, by roving gangs of thugs, just looking for an excuse for 'a bit of aggro'. Almost certainly, many of those turning up, turned up in the hopes of joining a peaceful demonstration, yet found the events taken over by thugs intent on destruction. Over the week, events just snowballed. Farage's comments, didn't help, but were not a major cause of the riots. As a single point of major blame, for the riots getting so out of hand, then I would blame Lennon.

 

[denso13]

The riots were initiated by the completely uncontrolled immigration

How is it completely uncontrolled? Access is granted, or not, to the vast majority of immigrants, it is very much controlled.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

How is it completely uncontrolled? Access is granted, or not, to the vast majority of immigrants, it is very much controlled.

Rubbish - they jump on a boat, survive the trip across the channel, and are welcomed into the UK - where is the control involved in that? We have zero control, apart from the bad weather in the channel.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

You're being ridiculous.

The riots were initiated by the completely uncontrolled immigration,

Were there any immigrants involved in the riots? If so, what were they rioting about?

but they were made much worse, by roving gangs of thugs, just looking for an excuse for 'a bit of aggro'.

They were instigated by disinformation on social media organising the roving gangs of violent thugs.
They didn't turn up by accident.

Almost certainly, many of those turning up, turned up in the hopes of joining a peaceful demonstration,

That'll be why they started picking up stones, broke down walls when there weren't any stones available.

yet found the events taken over by thugs intent on destruction.

So they joined in, which isn't obligatory.

Over the week, events just snowballed. Farage's comments, didn't help, but were not a major cause of the riots.

Farage's comments went no where near discouraging the riots.
As a politician he should know better.

 

[denso13]

Rubbish - they jump on a boat, survive the trip across the channel, and are welcomed into the UK

The vast majority don't arrive by boat. Typical bigotry.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

The vast majority don't arrive by boat. Typical bigotry.

We are discussing illegals, that is how they enter the country.