Who started the riots with misinformation? A white right winger? Nah!

[Mrs Ten Names]

Rubbish - they jump on a boat, survive the trip across the channel, and are welcomed into the UK - where is the control involved in that? We have zero control, apart from the bad weather in the channel.

What do you think happens to them when they disembark from Border Force boats?
Do you think they are given their bus fare and sent on their way?

 

[denso13]

We are discussing illegals,

Maybe you were,

The riots were initiated by the completely uncontrolled immigration

Immigration isn't completely uncontrolled. Fact.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

We are discussing illegals, that is how they enter the country.

It's not illegal to seek asylum. It's a human right.

 

[Brigadier]

The riots were initiated by the completely uncontrolled immigration

Bowlogs.

The riots were solely caused by tnucs like Lennon, Forridge et al, and carried out by numbskull knuckledragging mouthbreathers.
They just look for an excuse, to try and validate their thuggery.
Same pr!cks who like a punch up, but won't admit that, so call it "football hooliganism" instead.

 

[ellal]

It's not illegal to seek asylum. It's a human right.

It may be a legal right, but the nasty party made the rules so that there is no legal way of claiming asylum in the UK...

Thus all asylum seekers are deemed 'illegal' by whatever means they get here...

Thus the nasty party must also be recognised as the inhumane party!

 

[ajohn]

We are discussing illegals, that is how they enter the country.

How many have arrived?
In 2023 as a whole, 29,437 people came to the UK in small boats. That was a big drop from the 2022 total of 45,755 , which was the highest since figures were first collected in 2018. Since 2018, more than 130,000 people have come to the UK by this route.
Some other aspects here

How many people cross the Channel in small boats and how many claim asylum in the UK?

Keir Starmer has said the UK will "smash the gangs" bringing people to the UK in small boats.

www.bbc.co.uk

More here

People crossing the English Channel in small boats - Migration Observatory

This briefing examines the phenomenon of people crossing the English Channel in small boats.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

Other arrivals run into millions. Various visas.

If you want a full understanding of the whole area you will need to read a lot including what happens to illegals. Visas put a strain on the system as well.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

It may be a legal right, but the nasty party made the rules so that there is no legal way of claiming asylum in the UK...

Thus all asylum seekers are deemed 'illegal' by whatever means they get here...

Thus the nasty party must also be recognised as the inhumane party!

It's not been tested in court.

• There is no such thing as an "illegal" or "bogus" person seeking asylum. Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim.

The truth about asylum

You can rely on our facts and figures to get the true picture about the situation—and help spread the truth about asylum.

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk

The Illegal Migration Act 2023 introduced even tougher restrictions on asylum seekers who enter the UK without authorisation. The legislation, which became law on 20 July 2023 but has not been brought fully into force

We are concerned that the Act may be incompatible with our international obligations under the European Court of Human Rights and the UN Refugee Convention.
Breaching our international obligations undermines the rule of law.
The Act will fundamentally reduce the oversight of our courts. More cases are likely to end up in Strasbourg, which puts the UK at increased legal liability.
The Act contains limited safeguards that, coupled with restrictive timescales for appeal, are likely to diminish access to justice for everyone caught by its provisions.
It is unclear where those in detention will be held and how they will access legal advice.
Tens of thousands of people could be detained indefinitely, at extensive cost to the UK taxpayer, as no ‘safe’ third country (beyond Rwanda) is available.
It is not clear that this Act is workable on its own terms.

Illegal Migration Act: what's changing

The Illegal Migration Act aims to deal with challenges relating to the UK's asylum process.

www.lawsociety.org.uk

 

[Mottie]

The vast majority don't arrive by boat. Typical bigotry.

The vast majority aren't housed in hotels where a lot of the violence was aimed at. Could it be that it’s those uncontrolled immigrants that are pìssing people off? I would suggest that it’s partly those immigrants and the government that people were pìssed off with - I don’t know of any hotels funded by the government housing our indigenous homeless, do you?

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

The vast majority aren't housed in hotels where a lot of the violence was aimed at. Could it be that it’s those uncontrolled immigrants that are pìssing people off? I would suggest that it’s partly those immigrants and the government that people were pìssed off with - I don’t know of any hotels funded by the government housing our indigenous homeless, do you?

Is violence against innocent people ever justifiable or excusable?
It doesn't matter how ****ed off you are, your don't burn down the building that they're in!
Only insane violent thugs think it's acceptable, excusable or justifiable.

 

[Brigadier]

Is violence against innocent people ever justifiable or excusable?

You tell me.

And who decides who is "innocent", and how "innocent"?

 

[crystal ball]

The vast majority aren't housed in hotels where a lot of the violence was aimed at. Could it be that it’s those uncontrolled immigrants that are pìssing people off? I would suggest that it’s partly those immigrants and the government that people were pìssed off with - I don’t know of any hotels funded by the government housing our indigenous homeless, do you?

A £109 million boost to the Homelessness Prevention Grant, the funding can be used by councils to prevent evictions before they occur or fund temporary accommodation. Bringing the total fund to £1.2 billion, with more than 160,000 people supported since the scheme opened in 2022.28 Feb 2024

 

[Mottie]

the funding can be used by councils to prevent evictions before they occur

Is that why they tell people to wait until they are thrown out on the street before they will even consider helping them?

 

[crystal ball]

Is that why they tell people to wait until they are thrown out on the street before they will even consider helping them?

Government funding for homeless , you asked I answered

 

[Notch7]

Ok but first tell me the polling methodology as you understand it.

I don't need to, I'm not the one claiming its wrong

 

[Notch7]

Rubbish - they jump on a boat, survive the trip across the channel, and are welcomed into the UK - where is the control involved in that? We have zero control, apart from the bad weather in the channel.

If we don't have any control why were people rioting