EV are they worth it?

[JohnD]

I am more expert than you

I'll wager you have no idea.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

How long does a trajectory have to go down in order to become "continual?"

Until it becomes an upwards trajectory.

(Never happen)

 

[DiyNutJob]

How long does a trajectory have to go down in order to become "continual?"

It's continual when experts say so. EAMA sounds expert enough. After all, It is their bread and butter. EVs have niche applications that are inadequate for mature markets where better products have been known. China will continue to do well in non-mature markets owing to people's ignorance. But ignorance will diminish over time, and lower price cannot compensate for EVs' deficiency. I literally would not want one even if given free, or getting paid to have one because it creates unnecessary hassles for me. I take same view on all battery devices.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I literally would not want one even if given free, or getting paid to have one because it creates unnecessary hassles for me.

I would take one free, they do have their uses, these battery milk floats, for local runs.

I take same view on all battery devices.

Imagine having to always have your phone, or TV remote, permanently plugged into the mains

 

[JohnD]

Strange that regan showed an alleged quotation will no link to the alleged source.

Here's an actual link to a source.

Trends in electric cars – Global EV Outlook 2024 – Analysis - IEA

Global EV Outlook 2024 - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

Can someone point out the downward trend to me please? I can't see it.

 

[JohnD]

What did regan say about the drop in ICE cars?

"Petrol and diesel cars​

In August 2024, petrol car sales dropped by 17.1%, all four key markets recording significant declines: France (‑36.6%), Italy (-18.8%), Spain (-17.4%), and Germany (-7.4%). Petrol cars now represent 33.1% of the market, down from 32.6% in August last year.

The diesel car market saw a decline of 26.4%, resulting in a 11.2% share of the market last August. Double-digit decreases were observed in almost all European markets."

www.Acea.auto

Did he call it a continual downward trajectory in ICE cars?

 

[Avocet]

There aren't any Londoners in London any more. All gone to Kent, Essex, and lots of the feckers came to Bristol pushing up house prices.

Unless you imagine the pearly king and queen are still hanging around within the sound of Bow Bells.

Depends how you want to define "Londoners" I guess. I'm using the simple definition of: "people who live in London"...

 

[DiyNutJob]

Strange that regan showed an alleged quotation will no link to the alleged source.

Even stranger you can't be bothered with any effort for something important to you. Looks to me he got it straight from the horse's mouth.

New car registrations: -18.3% in August 2024; BEV market share down by almost one third

In August 2024, new EU car registrations saw a sharp decrease (-18.3%) with negative results across the region’s four major markets: double-digit losses were witnessed in Germany (-27.8%), France (-24.3%), and Italy (-13.4%), with the Spanish market declining by 6.5%.

www.acea.auto

 

[DiyNutJob]

Did he call it a continual downward trajectory in ICE cars?

I don't think any ICE owner cares if ICE is up or down. We want them because they are better for us.

 

[Avocet]

It's continual when experts say so. EAMA sounds expert enough. After all, It is their bread and butter.

Records were Decca's business, back in the 1960s. The Beatles auditioned for them, but they did't think they'd get anywhere, so they signed the Tremeloes instead...

EVs have niche applications that are inadequate for mature markets where better products have been known. China will continue to do well in non-mature markets owing to people's ignorance. But ignorance will diminish over time, and lower price cannot compensate for EVs' deficiency. I literally would not want one even if given free, or getting paid to have one because it creates unnecessary hassles for me. I take same view on all battery devices.

100-or-so years ago, some people were saying much the same about their horses...

 

[DiyNutJob]

I would take one free, they do have their uses, these battery milk floats, for local runs.

Do they justify road tax, insurance, parking, charger, and electricity expenses when you have something that can do everything already including towing a caravan?

 

[Avocet]

I don't think any ICE owner cares if ICE is up or down. We want them because they are better for us.

When you say "we"... you're obviously not talking about the increasing percentage of people not buying them, I guess...

 

[Avocet]

Do they justify road tax, insurance, parking, charger, and electricity expenses when you have something that can do everything already including towing a caravan?

In my case, they MORE than justify it! It's been like a £300-a-month pay rise, this last couple of years!

 

[DiyNutJob]

100-or-so years ago, some people were saying much the same about their horses...

But this is not 100 years ago, and we are not talking about horses. Did the government insist people stop using horses 100 years ago, and declare that by so and so date no new horses are allowed to be born?

 

[DiyNutJob]

In my case, they MORE than justify it! It's been like a £300-a-month pay rise, this last couple of years!

You are not counting fire and explosion risks, though. Same like me saying I had a pay raise when I went to the casino. But ultimately I get a pay decrease because the probabilities are against me.