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The other choice is to do nothing.

Do nothing, or do a little. What do you think is best ?
Guess we do what we can afford to do, given that every time the worker ants get close to a pensionable age, they add another year or two. Maybe there's so much financial uncertainty that people are inclined to hold on to things they know and trust, like their old cars.
 
Guess we do what we can afford to do, given that every time the worker ants get close to a pensionable age, they add another year or two. Maybe there's so much financial uncertainty that people are inclined to hold on to things they know and trust, like their old cars.
Well avoided.

It's simple. If everybody did a little, the cumulative effect is a lot.

Or doing nothing, just blaming elsewhere
 
Yes, what happened to the ozone layer? No one mentions it any more. Is there more money to be made out of climate change and net zero industry these days?

Not just the ozone layer! Remember "acid rain"? That's gone awfully quiet too, hasn't it? Well, there's a reason for that... You see, when it all kicked-off, those pesky, interfering scientist chaps got to work and told us that we needed to reduce the sulphur content of our fuels and fit catalytic converters to our cars. Naturally, there was a fair bit of push-back from the Luddites at the time. It was going to be the end of the world. Far too complicated and expensive. Ordinary people wouldn't be able to afford this fancy new kit. The garage trade wouldn't be able to work on them, cars would be scrapped as soon as they developed a fault, there weren't enough of the necessary rare earth metals on the planet to fit every car with a cat...

Fortunately, we cracked on with it anyway, and what do you know?! The problem improved!


And yes, as has already been said, the ozone layer is gradually repairing itself, now that those pesky interfering scientists have identified the problem, and the regulators have acted on their advice and banned CFCs. There was pushback against that, too. Air conditioning systems would be rubbish... (they said)...

Are you spotting a pattern starting to emerge here? ;)
 
No floods here, but thanks for your concern. Us ICE owners are usually on the high ground. And being an ICE, mercifully it won't catch fire and burn my house down in the unlikely event of the water rising. (y)

Ah... but you keep telling us that there are very few EVs, (what with nobody wanting them & all) and the vast majority of cars are ICEs! (That last bit actually being true, as it happens). So I think you'll find that rather more ICEs than EVs get flooded each year...:)

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Do you not already think that you're a cash cow for governments and companies alike,

Yes, but climate change and net zero allows them to take it to a different level. Our energy bills are now loaded and the prices have multiplied several times in the last 25 years. Every new 'green' initiative by governments means more costs for us. Someone somewhere is getting wealthy from all this.
 
If you post junk just to get a response,

Not worried about a response. You will find I don't get into long 6 page arguments with people who are invariably wrong. It's just futile and boring.

I just post my opinions, maybe one or two more posts to correct others' misconceptions - that's it. Don't care if anyone responds or not.

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Yes, but climate change and net zero allows them to take it to a different level. Our energy bills are now loaded and the prices have multiplied several times in the last 25 years. Every new 'green' initiative by governments means more costs for us. Someone somewhere is getting wealthy from all this.
Every year my taxes have gone up, just like my income.

The last hikes on power prices were blamed on Russia invading Ukraine, but using less energy means less bill.

Makes financial sense to me to use less, be that petrol, diesel, electric, gas or anything else.

Nobody is giving it away free, look at how petrol/diesel has increased in price
 
I don't smoke, but think it is eminently sensible.

The idea is to prevent smokers inflicting their habit on others.

It is quite remarkable, just how far the smell of fag smoke can travel.

I'm sorry but that's complete nonsense. How often have you left a pub garden because the smoke was opressive? How often have you left a pub garden and found your clothes smelling of smoke? Never happened, has it? How often do you even frequent pub gardens?

Smoke outside is so diluted and is carried away. You may be able to get a waft of smoke, but it's just a faint smell unless sitting right next to a smoker (you could always move) - will do no harm at all.

When they spoke about banning smoking in pubs there were legions of people who said they would go to the pub now, because there was no smoke in them. They never turned up and pubs are dying. The same people who now complain (in fact they don't because I've never heard any complaints about outdoor smoking, so it's just Brigadier) likely never go in a pub, let alone a pub garden. Unlikely that they never will. They're just killjoys who want to take away someone else's enjoyment and hammer the final nail into the coffin of struggling pubs.

Banning smoking outdoors is just complete control freakery. If you want to live in a totally sterile world, pubs may not be for you. Anyway, the air is far more polluted by our lovely ICE vehicles. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Best stay at home, indoors under the stairs, in case your delicate consitution is offended by the faint waft of someone enjoying a Benson.
 
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