And the kids, treating the pubs as play areas, running round screaming, does put many people off pubs. Often these are the people who might spend the money in them..
EV are they worth it?
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And the kids, treating the pubs as play areas, running round screaming, does put many people off pubs. Often these are the people who might spend the money in them..
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I think you'll find that someone who has been smoking for 40+ years has more than paid for their medical care in tobacco taxes.
Also, remember that as smokers don't live so long, they will receive years, poss decades less in state pension payments.
My father is 91, never smoked, but has been a massive ongoing cost to the NHS over the last few years with continual hospital stays, carers, district nurses, hospital appointments, ambulances, special equipment, tons of precription drugs, etc - plus 27 years state pension payments. We now have massive financial and social problems due to a rapidly ageing population. You haven't thought this through, have you?
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Cobblers! Look at Dublin. The pubs there, used to have smoke detectors that went off if it wasn't smoky enough! The smoking ban there, was going to kill off pubs...
...it never happened. The ban came in, and the pubs are doing just fine.
I think you need to find another bogeyman to blame for the demise of the British pub.
People have died of secondary cancer. Nobody has ever died of secondary screaming unruly kids...
Amazing, isn't it? The guy who wants pubs to be adult-only spaces, and gets grumpy about "unruly screaming kids", has actually, in the same post, given the reason why they're screaming and unruly! Yes, they'er far better behaved on the continent, and they tend not to have the binge drinking problems as they turn into young adults, that we have in this country.
...and by some strange coincidence, the Mediterranean countries with far more child friendly cultures, who DON'T want their bars and restaurants to be adult-only spaces, who actually treat their kids like part of the family, and put the effort into teaching them the necessary social skills, have better behaved, better-socialised kids...
...it's almost like there might be a connection, isn't it...?
I knew you'd come to appreciate EVs one day...
For quite limited use, yes, I have always appreciated them. They are perfect for delivering the morning milk, door to door.
Only 118, mine does a fair bit more than that, as well as being able to tow a caravan, without regular long breaks to recharge
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You'd almost think, with all these curmudgeons about, that there's be a thriving business opportunity for adult-only pubs, wouldn't you...?
However, the reality, is that (despite what you and Regan might think), not that many people want them.
Nobody has ever died of secondary screaming unruly kids...
Pubs did!
For quite limited use, yes, I have always appreciated them. They are perfect for delivering the morning milk, door to door.
Only 118, mine does a fair bit more than that, as well as being able to tow a caravan, without regular long breaks to recharge
Thanks, I used to have those. Bloody expensive to fuel though...
Nowt against kids, in pubs - I always providing they behave and are in proper control. Except, most are not - parents just let them run wild, which can be dangerous in a pub, serving hot food. One local, used to serve some food on red hot cast iron skillets, they had to stop, because of the risk of tripping, with so many unruly kids.
The smoke from lithium batteries is toxic though. More EVs increases probability of intaking such smoke.
Nooo, they didn't die of that. I just happens to be a bogeyman that certain people have picked (without putting up any evidence) are claiming.
The real reasons are far more complicated and wide-ranging.
Is this the end of the pub?
Once the soul of almost every community, pubs are clinging on for dear life - and an increasing number are losing their grip. Landlords and campaigners, researchers and residents reveal the "thousand cuts" killing Britain's boozers - and what it takes to survive the assault.
Not least because (as Tim Martin will tell you - or maybe he won't
), those idiot Brexiteers managed to shoot themselves in the foot and lose their cheap bar staff! Yet this doesn't seem to be a problem on the Continent, where kids are very much a part of everyday life...
Only 118, mine does a fair bit more than that, as well as being able to tow a caravan, without regular long breaks to recharge
I do not feel the need to do 120+, don't drag a shed, have a bladder limit below the range of my car, and like 600 miles for less than a tenner
On the Continent, the kids are much better controlled - it's the adults which are noisy
Ok, that's conclusive then. Pubs in a tourist city in a foreign country still have customers, so the same must be true for The UK's pubs.
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