EV are they worth it?
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Yep, we are guilty of that as a country. However the strategy should be better balanced in terms of timescale to ensure the financial impact on the average person/family/business isn't severe.
On the subject of personal vehicles, many people need (i.e. it's not just desired) their own vehicle. For them, public transport isn't always an option. If they're just managing financially and their vehicle gives up, their only choice might be buying another ICE vehicle for <£5k maybe even closer to £1k. The EV route isn't a realistic option for them.
Of course, it's easy to assert this is all part of the grand plan. Get the masses off the road and on to (often) sh1tty public transport, leaving the highways and byways for the middle and upper classes who can afford it.
Can I ask EV owners on here what the range of their EV is?
Interesting...
And would the same apply to... (say)... someone who didn't drive an EV telling us all about what EVs are like...?
You truly are the king of the own-goal, aren't you?
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Completely ignoring that the main reason for housing crisis is mass immigration.
Nah... that can't be right... I've heard that all the immigrants are put up in 5 star hotels, (at the taxpayers' expense, of course), so they won't be taking up any of the housing stock...
I seem to remember it was more to do with the Tories selling off all the public housing...
As for me intent on holding us back. It's not me that wants to force unwieldly, impractical, expensive, backwards battery vehicles on an unwilling population with more sense.
Nah... that can't be right... I've heard that all the immigrants are put up in 5 star hotels, (at the taxpayers' expense, of course), so they won't be taking up any of the housing stock...
There aren't enough 4* hotels for all of them. I'm guessing the hotels are only a staging post for the latest arrivals until our politicians very generously give them more permanent accommodation. The council estate up the road from me is rapidly changing colour and I'm seeing more and more women wearing head to toe sheets wandering around. In the midst of a housing crisis, when locals can't get on the ch list, their homes are being given to foreigners. Politicians = traitors.
How long would you suggest would be "balanced", then? There will still be ICE vehicles on the road in 2050 under the current plan.
I live in rural Cumbria, and need to travel for work. Currently, we get 1 bus a week, and it doesn't come at a time (or go to a pace) that would actually help me. I absolutely get that!
And absolutely nobody (least of all me!) is telling them they have to go out and buy an EV tomorrow! My own son is a teenage student, with an old ICE car that he paid £1100 for. I'm totally cool with that! However, what I'd take a dim view of, is him going round spreading BS and misinformation about EVs. That helps nobody (except maybe the big oil companies...)
Lots of things are easy to assert - but are they true? Maybe, it's actually part of a "grand plan" to try and stop people getting increasingly frequently flooded out of their homes? Maybe it's part of a "grand plan" to increase the country's energy security and independence? Maybe it's part of a "grand plan" to improve the air quality for those people who have to live in busy cities? Maybe it's part of a "grand plan" to provision for a future where oil is getting more scarce and a wish to have something in place for that eventuality, instead of waiting to hit the buffers and only having a few years to do it, before the country grinds to a halt?
...but yeah... it could be part of a grand plan to restrict the ability of some members of society to go out, and earn a living and pay tax, and contribute to our nation's lousy productivity, I guess? I mean, what government wouldn't want to have to pay more in unemployment benefits?!
Like an ICE, it varies with how it's driven.
Assuming "sensible, average" use, about 300 miles in summer, and maybe 230-260 in winter, depending on how cold it is. If I took it on a track day, maybe 100 miles?
Yes... and...? We all know China has lots of coal power stations. However, we also know that a lot of these new power stations are actually newer and more efficient replacements for older coal power stations. We also know that China is currently generating about 1/3 of its energy from renewables, and that is increasing faster than the rest of the world put together. You really can't see what's coming, can you?! You really can't see that China will overtake and wipe the floor with laggard countries when it comes to renewables over the next 20-50 years, can you? On more chance to develop the technology that the whole world is going to need, slipping through our fingers and being handed to the Chinese on a plate...
Buy yeah, keep buying stuff made in China and then tell us how dirty they are compared to us...
Careful! If you've no direct, personal experience of EVs, you'll have Nutjob on your back, accusing you of false advertising and disinformation, for making claims like that...
It was a "barge" last I heard...
I expect many of them were actually born here...
I expect many of them were actually born here...
No. They Certainly weren't born on the council estate, because up until 20 years ago or so, it was almost completely caucasian. Also, they must be incredibly backwards if they were born here - because they don't speak English.
They are recent arrivals. Please don't pretend otherwise or make out I can't tell the difference.
I will be the last one in Europe driving ICE.
Then as far as Nutjob is concerned, you'll be the last person in Europe entailed to an opinion on EVs!
No. They Certainly weren't born on the council estate, because up until 20 years ago or so, it was almost completely caucasian. Also, they must be incredibly backwards if they were born here - because they don't speak English.
They are recent arrivals. Please don't pretend otherwise or make out I can't tell the difference.
Yeah... OK... Keep reading the Mail and watching GB News...
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