EV are they worth it?

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Between 1996 and 2009 Ford in the USA had to recall 14.9 million cars, trucks and SUVs because of electrical faults which caused fires, even when vehicles were parked. Ford advised owners ‘not park near garages or homes’ but there were several building fires directly linked to vehicle fires. The Ford Explorer became nicknamed the “Ford Exploder”.

In 1978 Ford USA recalled 1.5 million Ford Pintos and Mercury Bobcats, the largest recall in automotive history at the time, because of petrol tank design flaws which caused ruptures and ignition with rear collisions at as little as 20mph.

In 2018 1.6 million diesel BMWs were recalled in Europe & Asia because of a fire risk.

1 million Mercedes-Benz cars built between 2015 and 2017 were recalled for a fire risk from faulty starter motors.

The 991-generation Porsche GT3 was so prone to catching fire that Porsche advised owners to not drive their cars until they could be recalled for a fix.

In 2015 Toyota recalled 6.5 million cars because of potentially combustible power window switches – an issue that extended to as many as 14 million cars going further back. In 2014, it announced recalls of 1.67 million cars amid concerns over faulty brake and fuel components. In a separate issue, sister company Lexus announced a recall of 759,000 cars across the world after discovering a fault with the fuel pipes.

In 2012, 235,000 Minis needed rectifying because of a potential fire risk caused by defective electric water pumps.

1.3 million BMW 5 and 6 Series worldwide were recalled because of a fire risk from an incorrectly-fitted battery cable cover.

In 1996 Ford recalled 7.9million Lincoln & Mercury models because a faulty ignition switch was causing dashboard fires.
 
EV tax incoming.

Shame for you, really, that you've decided to quote someone who is so clearly such a deranged anti-EV fanatic that they produced a video with the most outrageous lies in it, to whit they multiplied the proposed charge being trialled by 10.

To put it in perspective, a UK driver doing the average annual mileage would pay £174pa here if we had a per-mile price set at the same rate.

Still - I guess that's what happens when you are either incapable of caring, or refuse to care, about the truth.
 
Why would you go through all this and still not be able to charge your car? EVs: life's too short!!


No wonder ICE drivers park in the charging bays. They're no use for actually charging cars. Imagine spending your life hanging around supermarket car parks in the rain, faffing around with cables, apps and chargers. Hoping it works or your app is compatible or doesn't crash. Then sit there for 30 or 60 mins while the stupid thing sucks up some amps. Would never own anything this user unfriendly. Monumental ball ache! I prefer to have confidence when I refuel my diesel. 5 mins, no aggro, no apps, no dumb cables - job done and on my way. But I suppose if you have the EV religion...............
 
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A Northamptonshire family were forced to grab their newborn puppies and flee from their home when their electric car exploded without warning – several hours after parking up outside their village home.
Scott added: “The fire fighters told us we were minutes from losing our home. They eventually decided the safest option was to drag the car down the driveway using the fire engine due to the fear of constant reignition. This was a fear that didn’t leave us until someone could be found who was prepared to recover such a dangerous vehicle.
 
I refuel my diesel. 5 mins, no aggro, no apps, no dumb cables - job done and on my way. But I suppose if you have the EV religion...............

Well, I used an app to refuel, an hour ago... I topped up my diesel's tank with £60 worth. I used the phone app, to pay for the fuel, it took me all of five minutes, no fuss at all.
 
I do most of my charging at home. Overnight. At a 7p rate.

No worries. If we go on a journey longer than 200 miles, we will use a rapid charger. No worries. But the vast majority of charges are very cheap at home.

No fretting about filling up. If we do it away from home, we choose a charger where we can have a coffee and a pee or maybe lunch.

Of the public chargers we have used, only two were not working and we have never had to queue.

Happy as Larry.
 
I'm starting to wonder if any criticism of the anti-EV nonsense posted by ReganAndCarter, bernardgreen or DiyNutJob is allowed any more.
 

A Northamptonshire family were forced to grab their newborn puppies and flee from their home when their electric car exploded without warning – several hours after parking up outside their village home.
Scott added: “The fire fighters told us we were minutes from losing our home. They eventually decided the safest option was to drag the car down the driveway using the fire engine due to the fear of constant reignition. This was a fear that didn’t leave us until someone could be found who was prepared to recover such a dangerous vehicle.
In context

Neil Sadler from Northamptonshire Fire Service said: "We are not experiencing an increase in electric vehicle fires, but when they do occur, they can behave differently to other vehicle fires and require a different response
 
but when they do occur, they can behave differently to other vehicle fires and require a different response
Makes sense. When an EV catches fire, there is risk the nearby vehicles/building catching fire. This is the reason why there is a 50 feet buffer radius for EVs.
 
Makes sense. When an EV catches fire, there is risk the nearby vehicles/building catching fire. This is the reason why there is a 50 feet buffer radius for EVs.
If an ice vehicle catches fire there is no risk to nearby vehicles/buildings ?

Do you want to re consider?
 
The offer was to Avocet.

Perhaps Avocet can help you:

I certainly can! Morqthana, if you were wondering, provided it has been manufactured and installed in accordance with all applicable regulations, you don't need to tell your home insurer you've had an EV charger installed, any more than you have to tell them you've had an immersion heater, electric shower, hob, oven or even toaster installed.

However, as you're not a paranoid, superstitious, gullible halfwit, I suspect you probably knew that already...? ;)
 
Or perhaps blind faith?

Well, we all have to make the of leap of faith now and again, some people end up putting their faith in scientists, engineers, statisticians and factual, dispassionate data...

...others seem to put theirs in YouTube "clickbait" videos, tabloids and hysterical internet forumites...

It's hard to know who to believe, really...:rolleyes:
 
It's not just the fact that they can burst into flames, but the speed, the rapidity, with which the vehicle is engulfed in flame. Little, to no warning, and 10 seconds later, the vehicle is a fireball. Imagine batting along the motorway at 70, and your EV suddenly explodes into flame. Would you have time, to pull over, get out, and get out of range of it - even supposing you were alone? Much more difficult with kids and dogs on board.

ICE vehicle fires develop much more gradually.

And your evidence for this assertion is...?
 
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