Typical Labour. I’m alright Jack…..

[Harry Bloomfield]

Yes that and the biggest giveaway of all is the council ones all have not long ago been insulated on the outside with identical render ECT and the private ones not.

None of that, around here, at all..

 

[Notch7]

Its very easy to tell actually

Isn’t it funny how when people use anecdotes in debates, they always always agree with what they believe.

It’s almost as if they see what they want to see.

 

[Notch7]

Travelling through my local council estates I see plenty of flash cars on the drives,

And then you park up outside the food bank where you see people coming out and you can tell they have a massive flat screen TV at home and they have netflix.

I bet you can even tell they have the latest top of the range smartphone in their pocket.

 

[Brigadier]

they have the latest top of the range smartphone in their pocket

Doesn't EVERYONE nowadays, Daaaahling?

 

[aveatry]

And then you park up outside the food bank where you see people coming out and you can tell they have a massive flat screen TV at home and they have netflix.

I bet you can even tell they have the latest top of the range smartphone in their pocket.

Why are you making things up that people have said - no one ever mentioned any of that - what are you doing.

I can tell 100% through my local estate which ones are private and which ones are council rented, the biggest giveaway of all is that the council ones have all had external fitted insulation and the private have not. I use the bus a lot that goes through the estate so have plenty of time to see the flash cars both on the drive and in the road as the bus has to constantly stop and weave its way through them. The estate is about 90% council.

So you cannot accept that even some of the council tenants could afford a mortgage or to rent private and so then free up the low cost rent house for someone in more need.
They are means tested to get a house are they not ? but then is that it forever even when their income rises massively from when they first rented from the council. As I said I see a lot of flash cars on drives, ok could be high mileage recks for all I know - but there is a lot of them.Ok lets say they lease them for which you are talking £400+ per month. Not clued up on how leasing works or the cost leasing would be more expensive than a reck in a shiny coat.

 

[denso13]

So you cannot accept that even some of the council tenants could afford a mortgage or to rent private and so then free up the low cost rent house for someone in more need.

You would force people to move if they don't want to? What would the income cut off point be, how far away would they be expected to move?

They are means tested to get a house are they not ?

No.

 

[aveatry]

You would force people to move if they don't want to? What would the income cut off point be, how far away would they be expected to move?

Good questions - I have no idea - do you ?
But I am sure the labour Gov would find a way and just label it under "Difficult decisions" - and something about 14 years.

 

[aveatry]

They are means tested to get a house are they not ?

No.

Ok so are you going to argue 100 pages about the phrase "means tested" because its the wrong phrase.
If I hand 100k in the bank and a 90k a year job could - would I get a council house or not.

@notch before you come on posting "avetry thinks everyone in a council house has a 90k a year job and 100k in the bank" dont bother.

 

[denso13]

Good questions - I have no idea - do you ?

No. It wouldn't work.

 

[denso13]

If I hand 100k in the bank and a 90k a year job could - would I get a council house or not.

Possibly, the money is irrelevant.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

If I hand 100k in the bank and a 90k a year job could - would I get a council house or not.

Depends. Judging by what goes on in these parts - have you recently arrived, put feck all in and preferably kneel on a little mat several times a day?

Yes, to two or more of the above questions - and you can collect the keys today.