Labour is the "Party for British business"…

[motorbiking]

My knowledge already extends beyond wikipedia. What about yours?

The fact remains, even when employed "at will", which gives the employer and the employee the right to terminate without cause, the employee has statutory protection from unfair termination. There are at least a dozen federal laws that provide protection relating to pregnancy, equality, whistle blowing, health and safety etc etc. What you also find in US employment contracts is a whole bunch of sections on Termination that mean the employment cannot be considered "at will". it's pretty standard stuff.

Sure a guy gets a job as a waiter on an oral contract, he can be hired or fired at will, a bit like a zero hours contract here. Or anyone with less than 2 years service.

 

[ajohn]

It is quite common for employers to ask you to reapply for your own job. This is usually done to assist your employer in deciding who to select. If you don't reapply or if you're unsuccessful in your application, you'll still have a job until your employer makes you redundant.
In practice it can also be used to make people ultra aware that they actually do have a job. Grateful may figure. No relationship to the time they have actually had the job.
Sometimes employees will be asked to reapply for their jobs as part of the process of choosing which employees should be made redundant. It's not uncommon for employees to be unfairly dismissed when a company is taken over. You should take legal advice on your particular circumstances.

 

[motorbiking]

source and point?

 

[ajohn]

source and point?

Just google copies of what I posted.

 

[motorbiking]

Yes. I’m sure it’s not your text. The grammar is a give away. What I don’t understand is why you posted it?

What point are you trying to make?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

My knowledge already extends beyond wikipedia. What about yours?

The fact remains, even when employed "at will", which gives the employer and the employee the right to terminate without cause, the employee has statutory protection from unfair termination. There are at least a dozen federal laws that provide protection relating to pregnancy, equality, whistle blowing, health and safety etc etc. What you also find in US employment contracts is a whole bunch of sections on Termination that mean the employment cannot be considered "at will". it's pretty standard stuff.

Sure a guy gets a job as a waiter on an oral contract, he can be hired or fired at will, a bit like a zero hours contract here. Or anyone with less than 2 years service.

Not sure where you dig your stuff from.

But firing at will happens a lot in usa. In big tech firms as well as restaurants.

 

[motorbiking]

and of course the big tech firms include confidentiality clauses regarding the settlement terms.

Yes you are terminated, but not without compensation.

It's a model that drives growth, productivity and job creation.

 

[ajohn]

What point are you trying to make?

It was you that mentioned putting people in stressful situations not me.

 

[motorbiking]

ahh ok.. which would you prefer:

a) AJohn, your performance is poor, we are going to put you on a plan and monitor you closely. We will set targets [that you can't achieve] and provide support [that is useless] to help. During this time you will have regular meetings with your manager [who will try to get you to leave, load you up with so much stress and work that you have no time to secure another job] and you may [will] be terminated at the end.

b) AJohn, its not working out, here is 3 months pay and take it off as gardening leave, while you look for another job. best of luck.

 

[transam]

Well starmer had dinner with Trump

No press leaks ? On the caper ? Which probably means they got on well and said meeting was productive / cordial ??

Trump don’t like the EU

And of course the UK is no longer in the EU

Yes exactly

 

[transam]

Than again Trump don’t like Nato ??

The EU members of NATO started bricking it when trump considered pulling the US out

And suddenly upped there nato contributions in an attempt to appease

 

[ajohn]

which would you prefer:

There is nothing unusual about the use of appraisals usually with the requirement that the receiver signs them to indicate that they agree with them. This may or may not include suggestions on factors a person could use to improve their performance. In fact I would say that would be unusual.

Much of this area and the other I mentioned is aimed at putting the employed person under pressure in a way that is likely to cause stress. There are others as well.

 

[motorbiking]

A performance improvement plan is not an appraisal.

If I was giving you legal advice and I am not, you should never sign anything that is not intended to form some sort of agreement...

well maybe a birthday card.

It's really not in your interest to sign an "appraisal". It could be used to terminate your employment on capability grounds, without consultation.

 

[ajohn]

It's really not in your interest to sign an "appraisal". It could be used to terminate your employment on capability grounds, without consultation.

I know yet this sort of thing does go on. Also an "appraisal" may include questions the receiver is expected to answer.

It's a fair few years ago now but management techniques was as source of income for more senior managers that tried various ideas out on their work force.They would try them just to see what happens and then arrange meeting with others to discuss the results. Those would pay for that. Later those new to this level of job might be sent on a course. A fresh director I finished up under was sent on a course. It gives him ideas on what to do about various people problems.

Apply for the job you have? Not done overnight. Leave plenty of time for the idea to sink in. I have not heard of use of this for a fairly long time. One early example was universities. There has been others.

Points based redundancy. It goes on. Being late, off ill too often can figure. Hit some number and you are out. Those that for some reason get close to that number can get pretty stressed. Tough that is how it is. Reason - some will say that accountants expect some degree of sickness so I want mine so they just take time off assuming this is correct.

Larger companies often have people they would like to get rid of. The question then is how to cause them to leave. In some cases there are solutions.

A lot of this sort of thing crops up as people can be a pain and have to be made to behave correctly.