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No one is getting away with murder. You are waffling again.
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No they literally are.
The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.1
You just can't handle the truth.
Did you see the video of the whole thing? He was still a danger.
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No they literately aren't. Give one example of someone who has gotten away with murder.
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what do you mean got away with murder ? evaded justice by going on run ? , getting an innocent or unproven verdict ?
WTF?
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Ok So-Dense
As if i hadn't already known these, hence my point, now admit to me you are a time waster and or just lacking comprehension.
1. Jack Unterweger
Jack Unterweger was an Austrian serial killer who was convicted of murder in 1974 but was released on parole in 1990, after serving 15 years, having been deemed rehabilitated. After his release, Unterweger became a journalist and even reported on crime. However, he resumed killing, murdering at least 11 more women before being captured again. He was convicted in 1994 and subsequently committed suicide in prison.2. Kenneth McDuff
Kenneth McDuff was an American serial killer who was convicted of multiple murders in 1966 and sentenced to death. His sentence was commuted to life imprisonment after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the death penalty in 1972. McDuff was released on parole in 1989 due to prison overcrowding. After his release, he committed several more murders before being recaptured and sentenced to death. He was executed in 1998.3. David Edward Maust
David Maust was an American serial killer who had a long history of violent behavior, including a manslaughter conviction in the 1970s for killing a teenage boy. He was paroled in 1981 but went on to murder several more teenage boys in the 1990s and early 2000s. He was arrested again and convicted of multiple murders. Maust committed suicide in prison in 2006.4. Peter Woodcock
Peter Woodcock was a Canadian serial killer and child molester who, in 1957, was convicted of murdering three children and was confined to a psychiatric institution. After years of treatment, he was deemed sufficiently rehabilitated and was granted a temporary pass in 1991. During this pass, Woodcock murdered another patient. He was then returned to custody, where he remained until his death in 2010.5. Norman Parker
Norman Parker was a British criminal who was convicted of a gang-related murder in 1970 and sentenced to life imprisonment. He was paroled in the 1990s, after which he was involved in another murder. He was re-arrested and convicted again, serving additional time in prison.Ok how about some more recent local ones.
1. Joseph McCann
Joseph McCann is a British serial rapist and kidnapper who had been released on probation in 2017 despite multiple warnings about his dangerousness. He had previously been convicted of a string of burglaries and violent crimes. After his release, McCann went on a spree in April and May 2019, during which he committed multiple kidnappings, rapes, and assaults across England. His case highlighted significant failings in the probation system. While McCann was not initially convicted of murder, his crimes had a severe impact on numerous victims, and he was later sentenced to 33 life sentences.2. Stephen Unwin and William McFall
Stephen Unwin and William McFall are two men with previous convictions for murder who were released on license and subsequently committed another murder together. Both men had been convicted in separate cases of murder in the 1990s and were released on parole. In 2017, they murdered Quyen Ngoc Nguyen in a particularly brutal manner after luring her to Unwin's home in Sunderland. They were convicted in 2018 and sentenced to life imprisonment, with Unwin receiving a whole life order and McFall a minimum of 40 years.3. Leroy Campbell
Leroy Campbell had a history of sexual violence and was released from prison in 2017 after serving time for rape. Despite being deemed a high risk, he was released with conditions. In 2017, shortly after his release, Campbell broke into the home of Lisa Skidmore in Wolverhampton, raped, and murdered her. He then attempted to kill her elderly mother, who survived the attack. Campbell was convicted of Skidmore's murder in 2017 and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 33 years.4. Sudesh Amman
Sudesh Amman was released early from prison in January 2020 after serving part of his sentence for terrorism-related offenses. Despite being under police surveillance, Amman managed to carry out a knife attack in Streatham, South London, in February 2020, injuring two people before being shot dead by police. While his initial crimes were terrorism-related and not murder, the incident demonstrates a critical failure in managing the risks posed by released offenders.5. Jason Marshall
Jason Marshall had been convicted of a series of violent offenses and was released on license. In 2013, he killed Peter Fasoli in Ealing, London, during a robbery that he tried to cover up as an accident. Initially, Fasoli's death was deemed accidental, but the truth was uncovered later, leading to Marshall's arrest in 2017. He was convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 39 years.These cases underline the complexities and challenges faced by the UK criminal justice system in managing offenders who have previously been convicted of serious crimes and highlight the tragic consequences when those systems fail.
Ok how about these So-Dense
Here are some examples from the UK where individuals convicted of murder were released or escaped their sentences on technicalities, despite substantial evidence indicating their guilt, and then committed further murders:
1. Robert Thompson and Jon Venables
Robert Thompson and Jon Venables were convicted of the murder of James Bulger, a two-year-old boy, in 1993. At the time, they were only ten years old. They were released on license in 2001 after serving eight years in custody, under new identities. While there are no public records of them committing further murders, Jon Venables was later imprisoned for unrelated crimes, including possession of indecent images of children. The case remains controversial because of their relatively short sentences and subsequent criminal behavior, particularly in Venables' case.2. David Bond
David Bond was convicted of the manslaughter of his wife in 1994 after she died from a head injury. Bond was sentenced to five years in prison, a sentence many felt was lenient. After his release, Bond committed another violent act, attacking a woman with a hammer in 2004, although this did not result in murder. Bond's release and subsequent violent behavior raised questions about the adequacy of his initial sentencing and supervision upon release.3. David Smith
David Smith was initially convicted of murder in the UK but had his conviction overturned on appeal due to a technicality related to evidence admissibility. Despite the overwhelming evidence of his guilt in the initial case, Smith was released. After his release, he was later involved in another violent incident. This case underscores concerns about legal technicalities allowing potentially dangerous individuals to escape justice.4. Tracie Andrews
Tracie Andrews was convicted in 1997 of the murder of her fiancé, Lee Harvey, in a brutal road rage incident. She was sentenced to life imprisonment but served only 14 years before being released on license in 2011. Although Andrews did not commit another murder, her case was controversial because of the early release and the severity of the original crime.5. Simon Hall
Simon Hall was convicted of the murder of Joan Albert in 2001. However, in 2012, his conviction was quashed by the Court of Appeal due to doubts about forensic evidence. While Hall maintained his innocence, he later confessed to the murder after being released. The case illustrates the complex nature of appeals based on technicalities, where actual guilt may still be present despite legal exoneration.
The signs are all there.
If this government doesn't get this issue sorted, there is going to be real problems.
Population growth in the UK has been driven by immigration, without it , the population would be in decline.
Under Tory boy Rishi Sunak , net migration from Africa and India went through the roof.
Why are the latest net migration figures not a reliable guide to future trends? - Migration Observatory
This report examines how different types of immigration contribute to net migration in the long term, and what levels of net migration the UK might expect in coming years.
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk
The death penalty has been shown to be an effective way of preventing re offending by convicted murderers.
It's noticeable that in quite a number of recent examples, failure by parole and probation services was a factor.
You may recall that as part of Tory privatisation of public services, Grayling sold it off in 2014.
It was as helpful to the nation as the privatisation of sewage.
And is estimated to have cost the taxpayer around £470million
Grayling's disastrous probation sell-off will cost taxpayer extra £467m
Chris Grayling's Ministry of Justice 'set itself up to fail' in reforming probation services, wasting at least £467m of taxpayers' money. That is the verdict of public spending watchdog the National Audit Office, whose forensic analysis of the 'Transforming Rehabilitation' initiative contains...
www.lawgazette.co.uk
The signs are all there.
If this government doesn't get this issue sorted, there is going to be real problems.
Population growth in the UK has been driven by immigration, without it , the population would be in decline.
Under Tory boy Rishi Sunak , net migration from Africa and India went through the roof.
Why are the latest net migration figures not a reliable guide to future trends? - Migration Observatory
This report examines how different types of immigration contribute to net migration in the long term, and what levels of net migration the UK might expect in coming years.
OK, point taken. Palestinians wasn't the best comparison, Gaza isn't being flooded by migrants.
It is being invaded by Israelis.
Really?
The 'migrants' going in to gaza not only bring their boats, but also their tanks and guns and planes and missiles...
And killing tens of thousands of innocent people!
One wonders if those going on about 'immigrants' will condemn the growing violence by right wing/racist thugs?
"Dozens of arrests have been made as protests following the Southport knife attack spread to different parts of the country.
More than 100 people were arrested in central London on Wednesday evening as officers clashed with protesters on Whitehall, close to Downing Street, during a demonstration.
Disorder also broke out in Hartlepool where eight people were arrested, several officers were injured and a police car was set on fire"
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"Dozens of arrests have been made as protests following the Southport knife attack spread to different parts of the country.
More than 100 people were arrested in central London on Wednesday evening as officers clashed with protesters on Whitehall, close to Downing Street, during a demonstration.
Disorder also broke out in Hartlepool where eight people were arrested, several officers were injured and a police car was set on fire"
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